Posted on 07/06/2013 7:52:32 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
Levin has said for a long time that we live in a "post constitutional republic" and in a general sense this is correct, but specifically we live in a "Progressive Democracy". This is also the title for a book written by Herbert Croly. The book is not in copyright, I hope people will download it online and read it. I would like to teach you how/where to find and verify everything that I stated:
Theodore Roosevelt specifically recommended Croly's book "Progressive Democracy" in an article of his titled "Two noteworthy books on Democracy".
I stated that the progressives hate the constitution. See Progressive Democracy, page 44:
""The Law in the shape of the Federal Constitution really came to be a monarchy of the Word. It had been imposed upon the popular will""
The progressives do not want a constitution which restrains governmental power. They want to be able to conduct social experimentation at our expense.
And as to social legislation, see page 362:
""Legislation is being used as a means of modifying social behavior, not social behavior as an excuse for formulating legislation. The legislator has become an innovator. .....He is learning that an extremely detailed and comprehensive statute is usually ineffective, because of the impossibility of anticipating all the conditions which affect the operation of a specific rule. Social legislation is coming more and more to demand results rather than prescribe means. .....The duty of drawing up a set of regulations which will provide sufficient safeguards for the life and health of the operatives is intrusted to a commission. All that the legislature does is to declare that industrial employment shall be reasonably safeguarded. The commission makes a comprehensive investigation of the conditions upon which the health and safety of the industrial employees depend and it issues orders based on the result of its investigations. These orders can be attacked in the courts, but in adjudicating the case the courts have to accept as final the commission's record of the facts.""
One final thing. Besides the fact that former president TR recommended this book, Croly's influence is still with us even to this day. Croly is one of the founders of The New Republic. You might have heard of it.
Here's what it all comes down to - the progressives do not want to discuss their own history. As you can see above, their own history puts them at a distinct disadvantage.
Last Wednesday you asked the question "This isn't Constitutional Republicanism, so what is it?" and you talked about it a little while ago as well and you're right it is alien.What we live under is a progressive democracy and I have two pieces of information that I can illustrate this to you.
When I say that we live in a progressive democracy I'm also referencing an out of copyright book by Herbert Croly, that was specifically recommended by former president Theodore Roosevelt.
The first thing, Croly writes about "worshippers of the word" and he talks about the "monarchy of the word." What he's getting at is the Federal Constitution. We've always known that these progressives hate the constitution, and it's written right here on page 44. He says "The Law in the shape of the Federal Constitution"....
Levin: Alright you don't need to read it to me I believe you. As a matter of fact we can do better than that, we can quote Woodrow Wilson.
Yes. Yes, you have a chapter about Woodrow Wilson in your book Ameritopia and I'm so thankful you did that. The other thing I was going to mention, again from Progressive Democracy, is he talks about social legislation. He talks about how legislators have become innovators. And how legislation...... instead of legislation taking care of everything it gets passed off to a commission, and that's exactly what Obamacare does.
Why is Obamacare 3000 pages? Because it's not legislation, it's social legislation. That's why there's been 15,000 regulations that come out of it.
Levin: You know what it really is too my friend, as I'm listening to you, it is a re-writing of the constitution that's what it is. So it's not really a matter of three branches of the federal government anymore. It's three branches and this other thing, which lords over us. Right?
Yes sir, they've been trying to get around the constitution for 100 years and the sad thing is.....
Levin: And it's worked.
They're almost there.
Levin: Let me tell you something, you're very good. Do you have all my books? or...
So here is where he offered me a book and of course who could say no? But I'm certain I left an impression, given that a few minutes after I was off the line he references my call and the things I was trying to get across.
We need to exploit this disadvantage.
History puts every form of human government at a disadvantage. It is a record of every great nation rising to power, losing touch with their original core mission, swimming in decadence and corruption, and then either fading away over time or suddenly being erased.
Socialism, observed from a distance, begins as a spasm that kills millions, then fades out over a few decades as the leaders gorge themselves in gluttonous orgies of consumption and their people live in want. The late effects are enduring malaise, systemic corruption, and rampant alcoholism.
There is one constant in history: the God of Israel.
I appreciate all your work and thanks for the pings!
Progressivism and the rejection of consent. (Consent of the governed)
If I were a journalist and wanted to disarm the people, here's how I would accomplish my goal
"I will be an unconstitutional governor" - Woodrow Wilson
What is the Fabian policy of Permeation?
"Nationalism" is how socialism was introduced to the American people
“Progressive Democracy”-— HMMMM The US Constitution does not promise “democracy” Let alone “progressive Democracy” It declares every State will have a republican form of government. Your point is well taken though if indeed we live in a Progressive Democracy we cannot claim to be that nation established a Democratic Republic. There is a distinct difference.the progressives have done more harm than good to this nation I served 69-77 to protect.
We do not.
We live under a Constitution that guarantees to every state a republican form of government. There is but one way to alter that guarantee and speaking words is not it.
Article. IV. Section. 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
To amplify the point that America has a Republican Form of Government as clarified in the Constitution I point out that the word "democracy" appears nowhere in the Constitution or in the Declaration of Independence. I can also add that the word “democracy” never appears in any of the State’s Constitution.
Mark for ref.
Well done
Progressivism is inherently anti-American.
“Progressive Democracy”???
That may be the tool used to get us to where we are - but we are HARDLY a ‘Progressive Democracy’ anymore than we are now currently a Representative Republic.
We’re a MarxoFascist state. We currently have more in common with Mussolini than Roosevelt or Wilson. More in line with Soviet leadership and governance than a liberal demococracy.
Because I still contend ‘Progressives/Liberals’ are still a minority - and tyrannize the rest of us with thug brutishness and intimidations.
We’re more Fascist than a democracy. More of a Police State than a mobocracy.
Mark’s a member here. Goes by name of holdonnow.
Placemark for later!
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Good job!
Of course he (ProgressingAmerica) agrees with you as to what we are supposed to be living under.
As to what the fascists have done to “government” in these USA, though, it is certainly something illegal that no one agreed to, though it was allowed to fester and now too many go along with it. I usually just call it fascism and try to explain it in private discussions, but now I am also trying to taint the label, “progressive” by using that too, since it’s the same evil.
“Progressive Democracy” sounds too “nice” to many, using their invented language just like they want to use it. It repulses me.
I love that ProgressingAmerica is on a mission to show the evil and poison of “progressive.” It should come to be considered to be as bad a thing as its virtual synonym, fascism.
“Idiocracy,” is a crude but too-true movie whose title sure sums up what happens to “democracy” in the hands of low information voters. I only mention it since so many leftist ideas “have got electrolytes” (from the movie).
“Progressive Democracy ... uuuhh, yeah, put that on the government, it’s good for it ... it’s got electrolytes ... “
Thanks, you addressed much of what I would have initially stated.
I would prefer to live under the constitution as originally laid forth, but I also recognize that these progressives have done significant damage to what the Founders gave us.
“Progressive Democracy” does on the surface sound ‘too nice’, I guess, but all we have to do is demonstrate who these progressives are. During the years 1900-1920 these people took their masks off so that everybody could see their ugliness. And the best part is, most of what they wrote in that era is not in copyright.
I know it’s an over simplification, but all we have to do is put that ugliness on display. Weirdad, you’ve been on my ping list for quite some time so you know that’s exactly what I try to do one blog post at a time.
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