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Posted on 07/02/2013 3:35:38 PM PDT by Josh Painter
Over the weekend, Sarah Palin floated the idea of forming a third party - tentatively dubbed the "Freedom Party," at the suggestion of a Fox News viewer - if the Republicans continue to disappoint conservatives. This drew a spirited response from blogger LaborUnionReport at RedState, followed by an equally spirited counter-response from Stacy Drake at Conservatives4Palin, who accused the RedState blogger of using a Palin Photoshop to illustrate his post.
I haven't got any Photoshop expertise to offer, beyond observing that it's a really good Photoshop.
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I've been wrestling with that third-party temptation for a long time, and generally agree with LaborUnionReport: if the insurgents can't beat those silly RINO squishes and take control of the GOP, what chance do they have against the blood-stained gears of the Democrat political machine? No student of the 2012 election can doubt that the Democrat machine is far more powerful, automatically coughing up gigantic margins in key districts for anyone who runs. Republicans can beat it with the right candidate, but it's tough; they can win, but the odds are tilted against them... [...]
However, I don't really mind third-party talk, because I think the Republican cage needs to be rattled on a regular basis. The grand principle of capitalism - the wisdom Democrats have persuaded much of America to forget - is that competition breeds excellence. And the essence of competition is the ability of the unsatisfied customer to walk away.
And there will come a point at which the GOP is a lost cause, and the generation-long work of tearing it apart and building a new party should begin. I think we're coming perilously close to that point. Maybe amnesty would take us over the edge, converting the Republican Party into a permanent minority that isn't worth fighting for anyway.
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The GOP must go.
The Egyptian Army is more responsive to Islamic terrorism
and the imposition of Obama and his Moslem Brotherhood
than the docile, al Qaeda-loving, Moslem Brotherhood-loving,
GOP.
Enough.
We have already reached that point IMHO.
If we stay with the GOP we’ll lose. If we form a new party we’ll still lose. The Democrats hold all the cards and they know it. Why do you think they’re so smug and arrogant and goading the RINO’s into voting for amnesty?
Close but not yet a lost cause. However, I do believe S. Palin is NOT the one. Very few would follow her. She seems good to great in rallying the troops but not leading them.
Sarah,
After your performance in the 2008 primaries, all I can say is DO IT or STFU. I will support you fully in either decision.
Giving this some serious thought, when Perot popped up, hardly anyone had ever heard of him, much less knew anything about his politics...except what he told us.
His “infomercials”, complete with charts, graphs, and other graphics, looked good, but lead a lot of folks to view him as a complete nut.
But a third party with Sarah at the helm, is intriguing. There’s no mistaking her politics, her conservatism, and, her experience...did I mention the biggest item...COURAGE.
She already attracts a fornidable chunk of the electorate, the Tea Party.
Since the GOP is probably going to lose the next election, anyway, it would be a good time to get this new party started.. The GOP is a breeding ground for RINOs, cowards, and turncoats. They caucus with the dems at every opportunity.
Sarah has already been put through the media wringer, time and time again. We know what to expect. Her word has helped many conservatives get elected.
It might be a good time...I’m still pondering, but excited at the possibilities. I’m sick of the two parties we have now...but if the GOP keeps morphing into democrats, and we start the Freedom party, well be right back to a 2-party system.
>>She seems good to great in rallying the troops but not leading them.
You’re right. I’d follow her party, but that party needs to find someone else to run for president.
I have to agree with you about Palin. She energizes people but not sure about her leadership/executive abilities. Idea people are not always good execution people.
My posts attest to the fact that I am pretty much anti-alarmist, anti-conspiracy theory, etc. I don’t believe there is voter fraud. I have no problem with Odimwit’s eligibility, etc.
BUT . . . absent a new Third Party, America is over. Done. There is no possibility of “taking over” the GOP. That is clear. If there was, quite frankly, we’d be close to succeeding by now. But for a few shining examples (Ted Cruz) we are making no inroads and are marginalized daily.
Hopefully, Sarah will start something ... or someone will. We are sitting at the children’s table in the GOP and they are merely tolerating us.
The “American Culture” that existed from its founding until the 1950’s is radically different from the American Culture from the ‘60’s until now. You may pick different dates but you get my drift. Today’s culture has doomed American to the same fate suffered by all once successful republics, complacency, no sense of the deprivations suffered by those who gave us our squandered gift.
...or, Khrushchev was correct when he said he would take us over without firing a shot.
Ok.... So why should she waste time trying to put together anything only to be sniped at by people that so far aren’t doing anything but waiting around for someone else to do the hard work?
Conservatives seriously need to stop acting like they are the smartest people in the room, and start getting more practical.
The American culture of the 1950's is so radically different from that of today that it might as well be from another galaxy.
Except that is what she is famous for and did in elective politics, the governor is a natural executive and leader.
I'm not aware of any governor who was a more unifying force, such a leader, that they equaled her approval ratings as a Governor.
Romney for instance failed as a governor and leader, was forced to give up his hope for reelection, and he left office with 34% approval and turned the seat over to the democrats, that is leadership we don't need, yet the "leader" who ran for office in 2012, perhaps Dole was the one, or HW Bush, Ford?
Great question. It never seems to get answered, though.
No student of the 2012 election can doubt that the Democrat machine is far more powerful ...
Sadly, there are more students of the 1972 or 1980 or 1984 election out there.
Except that is what she is famous for and did in elective politics, the governor is a natural executive and leader.
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You forgot to mention one thing: leaders don’t quit.
Conservatives seriously need to stop acting like they are the smartest people in the room
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I don’t think its about being the smartest. More of a case of being principled. But you’re right, a lot of hard work is involved, and at great personal sacrifice. Whoever stands up to this task, they and their family will be relentlessly savaged by the media.
Hear! Hear!, that.
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