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Mormon Mom Who Fought for Prop 8, Now Fights for Gay Son [Portman Syndrome]
Good Morning America ^ | Fri, Jun 21, 2013 | SUSAN DONALDSON JAMES

Posted on 06/25/2013 10:03:46 AM PDT by Antioch

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To: Antioch

So I guess God changed His mind.


41 posted on 06/25/2013 11:58:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: teppe

Glad to see you are bucking the orders from SLC lds leaders.


42 posted on 06/25/2013 12:05:50 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: OldNavyVet

The only people allowed in the secret building are those deemed worthy and have a temple recommendation.


43 posted on 06/25/2013 12:06:53 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: utahagen

Good point about Lynne Cheney never speaking about it......it’s why I still have RESPECT for her...unlike her husband who I USED to LOVE!!


44 posted on 06/25/2013 12:24:34 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: svcw
Of course not.

I have one daughter who is a good Christian girl, but no longer going to the LDS church. She is not shunned in the least and visits us every week, and we visit her. Of course I would not shun them, and there is absolutely no direction form the Church to do anything of the sort.

If a member is doing that, then they are making that choice for whatever reason, but it is not something I would never do with my children. I love them all, and try and help them in whatver way I can, financially, emotionally, spiritually,...motivating, encouraging, them to whatever extent possible.

I would hope svcw, if one of yours ever became LDS you would be able to do likewise.

Now, as to a Temple Marriage, if someone is not a member of the Church, or cannot hold a temple recommend, then they cannot enter the temple. The cermoony, the receptions, etc., etc. are something the family has to decide how to handle based on the circumstance.

In our own family, we have held civil ceremonies where the couple was married so all could attend, and then later had the marriage sealed in the temple. On other occassions, they have elected to be married in the temple and then exchange vows again poutside the temple so all could be there. The receptions have all been open to all. People can resolve these issues if they have a mind...but it is up to them as individuals.

45 posted on 06/25/2013 12:27:24 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SENTINEL
Stake President's are not perfect, Sentinel, neither was Joseph Smith. No one but the Savior, Jesus Christ is/was.

I am sorry for your experiences. I am sorry they have had the impact on you that they have to whatever degree they have caused sorrow or hurt.

That's a part of life's experiences we all face.

I understand all the quotes, all of the matrial, etc., etc. I was a convert to the church as a teenager when my father and I joined. We had been very active and participating Baptists before, my father a Deacon in the chirch we attended.

I saw all of the negative literature, claims of lies, falsehoods, cheating, etc., etc. I saw it again many times over as a missionary, and have seen it over and over since. From those I am acqujainted with, including family members outside of the Church.

Yet, I received the answer I did anyway, and have never had a call from God to go back on it. Nor do I expect I ever will. I too am a High Priest in the Church, Sentinnel, have been in Bishoprics and numerous other callings.

Again, sorry for your experiences...but I still wish you and yours well.

As is pertains to the defense of our liberty which is founded on the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I again, wish you great success in your efforts. We all must work together for those principles of accountability before God, the saving grace and mercy of His Son, and His Gospel of love, compassion, and adherance to His principles if we are to remain free.

All of us can do that together, and it is what I am dedicated to...whether with LDS folks, Catholics, Baptists, Evangelicals, Methodists, or any other person who believes in and adheres to those underlying moral principles.

Again, God's speed.

46 posted on 06/25/2013 12:37:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Ann Archy
I still love Dick Cheney. In his defense, he never said, “I used to be against gay marriage, but then my daughter came out as gay...” Also, he's never criticized people who oppose gay marriage, and he's never patted himself on the back for being open-minded. The people who say having a gay child changed their minds are the ones I think are either nitwits or quislings.
47 posted on 06/25/2013 1:24:19 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, I have a huge mormon family and I can tell you family members have been shunned when they left for what ever reson or became Born Again.
As I said the lds “temple” is secret.


48 posted on 06/25/2013 1:26:55 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: TheBattman

>>“While we believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman, we are not opposed to gay and lesbian as many claim; we believe in strict morality before marriage, regardless of sexual orientation.”<<

That is pretty much the Catholic position. You can have the attraction you just aren’t supposed to act on it.


49 posted on 06/25/2013 3:16:06 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: svcw
I cannot speak for others., svcw You asked me about myself and my family. And I answered you honestly and truthfully.

If you wanted a platform to speak about your own experience, you should have just done so, instead of asking me. As it is, I answered you in sincerity.

What other folks do, is between them and God, but shuunning a member of your own family simply because they joined another faith, is something that only makes matters worse between people who should love one another.

Sadly, it happens both ways...and, IMHO, is wrong.

50 posted on 06/25/2013 3:30:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

You asked me a questioned as I asked you.
Thank you for a typical response, I will do my best not to bother you again.


51 posted on 06/25/2013 3:37:14 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: Antioch

If a former same sex marriage supporter suddenly came out against it, Gay Morning America at ABCGBLTDisney would not find it newsworthy.


52 posted on 06/25/2013 6:23:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: freedumb2003

But notice the verbiage.... “BEFORE MARRIAGE”. After marriage - anything goes?

WE all are born with sin nature. That is why the Apostle Paul referenced putting his old flesh to death daily... We are to resist the temptation to sin.

But that’s not the point here - is acting on sinful lusts only bad BEFORE marriage?


53 posted on 06/26/2013 3:38:37 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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