Posted on 06/20/2013 2:24:19 AM PDT by rightwingerpatriot
The pro-amnesty immigration bill continues forward in the US Senate despite the fact that it will vastly hurt Americans and reward unlawful behavior. Right now, many amendments are being voted on for this piece of trash that will pave the way for amnesty for 11+ million illegal aliens, thus ensuring that conservatives will never win a national election for decades to come. Like most legislation coming out of Washington, this bill is a travesty.
Republican defenders of the bill originally said that this wasn't amnesty and that border security would be the top priority. We were also told that illegal aliens wouldn't get government handouts, that it would boost the economy, and that this wouldn't hurt working (or looking for work) Americans. Well, surprise, surprise. It seems that all these are flat out lies. First, the border security issue. Even Marco Rubio has admitted that amnesty will come before border security. Of course, we're expected to believe that the federal government (and the progressives) will actually enforce such laws in the future. However, we all know that this is a total crock. Our current laws are not being enforced, illegal immigration is running rampant, and border security is a joke. If our past and present laws are not being enforced, why the heck should we believe that any future laws will be?
As for getting amnesty, we were told that people would have to get in the back of the line, pay fines, etc. The Congressional Budget Office has come out and said that, under the current bill, 8 million illegals would get legal status and be eligible for benefits. The progressive left desperately wants this as 8 million new voters, who will vote liberal, will instantly join the electorate. All the talk of illegals not being able to receive federal benefits has just been refuted in the CBO report, not to mention the fact that illegal aliens would still get benefits through state and local governments.
This piece of garbage bill, weighing in at over 24 pounds, will keep Americans from working, or if they're working, earning less money. The vast, vast majority of illegal aliens are low-skilled workers. Coincidentally, low-skilled American workers have been more severely affected by the Obama economy, with minorities being especially hit hard. Flooding the market with cheap, legal labor will further decimate American workers. Also, it has been estimated that a further 30+ million illegal aliens will come across the border within the next ten years if the current bill is passed. The CBO and the JCT (Joint Committee on Taxation) have stated that passage of the bill will also drive down the wages of American workers. Hmmm....a flood of new illegal aliens, who are primarily unskilled, pushing American workers out of the job market....sounds like a good thing to me. (If I was a left-wing loon!) Even hardcore liberal Bernie Sanders, Senator from Vermont, derided the bill saying that it would take jobs away from Americans. When even a socialist is ripping your bill, you know it stinks bad.
Passage of this bill into law would fundamentally restructure America politically, which is the reason that it's being pushed. Look at what happened in California after Reagan agreed to amnesty in 1986. California went from a state that had voted Republican for presidential elections a total of nine out of ten from 1952 to 1988. Since then, six straight elections all to liberal Democrats. What happened in California is the progressive blueprint for America.
We have all the laws we need to operate as a free and sovereign nation ... in triplicate.
The politicial elite need cheap servants.
Any Republican legislator who believes Obama would sign anything to do with border enhancement (or uses that as an excuse to support “amnesty”) is on drugs and should be T-boned.
Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens and in “the shadows” according to Florida’s Senator Rubio the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from so we must make them citizens..
FR’s ; are urged to visit or call their respective Congressional Representatives and let them know their feelings
WHEN IT COMES TO AMNESTY
THIS IS THE MEXICAN PART NO ONE DARES MENTION
If you agree with the above and the following please don’t let it lay here in FR-land. Pass it on to to your favorite talk show host and to your US legislators. PUSH THE HASTERT RULE.
ONE NATIONALITY AMNESTY SKEWS QUOTAS. AMNESTY FOR NATIONALS FROM A COUNTRY THAT HAS CLAIMS ON OUR NATIONAL TERRITORY IS COURTING PROBLEMS.. HURTS OTHERS FROM SOUTH AMERICA, AMERICAN CITIZENS AND SKILLED LABOR FROM OTHER NATIONS
In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. Theres a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.
SOLVING THE ‘LATINO” PROBLEM A MYTH HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE BUT A POLITICAL LINGUISTIC CONTRIVANCE ...don’t fall into the hyphenated Americans trap created by the hyphenated political party ...The DEMO-COMS
The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. Theyre permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country dont get.. Worse yet the Obama government has been working hand in glove with Mexican movements such as LaRaza supporting the Mexican claims which are also supporting “Amnesty”.
Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory is a recipe for later serious problems which are happening now.
ARE MEXICAN ILLEGALS SQUATTERS PERPETUATING THE MEXICAN CLAIMS ?
We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). Its displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. Were courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.
MOST COINS OF THE REALM HAVE TWO FACES WHAT ABOUT HOW ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN MEXICO BEING TREATED ?
Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. Theyll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesnt apply to a citizen of Mexico
THE SOLUTION ASSERT OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND TALK RECIPROCITY .
By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally were offering no incentive for assimilation and were not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.
ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..
Our culture will inevitably be destroyed. It will be checkmate for our way of life.
” It wont cripple America, it will utterly destroy it as founded.
Our culture will inevitably be destroyed.”
Absolutely!
Careful SJB, some used to call you a "Know-Nothing" (code word for "racist" "xenophobe" etc.") :)
When people like that call me or the group I’m in a name, I just laugh and smile. How can you take offense to someone that stupid?
” Careful SJB, some used to call you a “Know-Nothing” (code word for “racist” “xenophobe” etc.”) :) “
Yeah, I’m always wrong. Just ax all those on the 2007 thread who used to trash me, and are now banned from FR : ) I wish I could find some threads of mine from the summer and fall of 2006, where I tried numerous times to warn FReepers to quit “flipping” houses, as there was going to be a TRILLION dollar mortgage bloodbath very soon.It worked just fine....I I got flamed : )
As the Center for Immigration Studies points out, Illegal aliens will be rewarded for breaking laws for which American citizens are routinely punished such as the use of fraudulent Social Security cards, while imposing a $1,000 penalty that in many cases would be waived. Then they would be issued a new Social Security number without any past bad credit or arrest records.
TALKING POINTS---below
TALKING POINTS---Just before the IR procedural vote, Judiciary Committee member Sen Grassley offered a simple amendment to the Judiciary Committee considering voting the immigration bill out of commmittee. "The secretary (of homeland security) may not grant registered provisional immigrant status to an alien under this section unless the alien fully discloses to the secretary all the names and Social Security account numbers that the alien has ever used to obtain employment in the United States," said Grassley's amendment.
Grassley's amendment would not have prohibited illegal aliens from being converted into legal aliens just because they had used names and Social Security numbers that did not belong to them. It would only have required that the illegal aliens make the names and numbers they used known to DHS before they could be granted the right to legally live in the United States.
Grassley said, "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more. This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."
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ON RECORD AS AIDING AND AETTING FELONIES Ranking member Sen Schumer dismissed Grassley's proposal. "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers," Schumer told his Judiciary Committee colleagues. "How are they going to remember all that, and are we going to delay RPI status? "(The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.
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The Senate Judiciary committee defeated Grassley's amendment 8 to 10 on a party-line vote.
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ACTION ALERT Freepers should mobolize locally--get grand juries to begin indicting these Senators for FAILING TO UPHOLD THE LAW AGAINST FELONIES. A few convictions and imprisonment oughta wake up the treasonous Congress. KEEP IN MIND---those elected to office are held to a higher standard of law than we peons....but have never been held to account.
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Majority members----Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing Room
226 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC:
Patrick Leahy, Dem-Vermont, Chairman
Dianne Feinstein, Dem-California
Chuck Schumer, Dem-New York, ranking member
Dick Durbin, Dem-Illinois
Sheldon Whitehouse, Dem-Rhode Island
Amy Klobuchar, Dem-Minnesota
Al Franken, Dem- Minnesota
Chris Coons,Dem- Delaware
Richard Blumenthal, Dem- Connecticut
Mazie Hirono, Dm-Hawaii
Source: 2013 Congressional Record, Vol. 159, Page S296 to 297
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FReepers, Contact Congress Toll Free 1-(866) 220-0044
MESSAGE TO CONGRESS: "I'm a legal American citizen, I pay taxes, I vote, and I don't like this bill. Most of all I don't like my govt using legislative power to scrounge for illegal voters to stay in power."
Memory lane hypocrite trip? Here's one from 2006:
The border issue is a small, small percentage IMHO, and vastly overrated by the anti-illegal immi crowd
526 posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 5:02:34 PM by see here at#526
Perhaps you should consider the border crowd is every bit a part of the wrecking of the GOP, and frankly very few want to put up with that attitude, just as very few want to put up with the attitude of La Raza.
3,143 posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:43:33 PM by here at 3143
This thread's title : Pro-Amnesty Immigration Bill Will Cripple America,
The link to 2006 comment:
Perhaps you should consider the border crowd is every bit a part of the wrecking of the GOP,
'Cripple' versus 'wreck'.
Yep, when Bush proposed a bill at least as liberal as this one many Republicans here defended it, of course many here cursed it, as SJB did.
See you at the signing.
Now that Obama is pushing amnesty, is it OK to be "disrespectful?"
Fun trip down “amnesty lane” : )
Thanks you two!
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