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Financial Insider: “We Are Moving Into the Last Stages Before An All Out Collapse”
SHTF Plan ^ | 6/7/13 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 06/07/2013 6:09:50 PM PDT by Kartographer

The Fed over here has ordered – and I want everybody to listen because this is insider information – the Fed has ordered the U.S. pension funds to begin to acquire U.S. debt. That is coming down the pike, it’s going to start happening, the states are going to start carrying it in order to fatten up their books… So, we are moving into the last stages before an all out collapse.

That’s exactly where we’re headed.

Now the Rubicon has been crossed… the armies are surrounding the Capital itself.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: collapse; depression; doomsday; preparedness; preppers; shtf
Time for the chickens to come home to roost.
1 posted on 06/07/2013 6:09:50 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Which is the reason Big Sis/DHS have been stocking up on high powered ammo...


2 posted on 06/07/2013 6:13:05 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Kartographer
Every pension fund owns US Treasuries, and they have since the very beginning.

Are you feeling OK?

3 posted on 06/07/2013 6:13:36 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kartographer

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4 posted on 06/07/2013 6:15:06 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

ping


5 posted on 06/07/2013 6:16:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: wideawake

You might want to actually read the article before posting.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 6:17:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: laplata

No kidding.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/growth-in-non-fixed-rate-notes-implications-for-mortgage-markets/


7 posted on 06/07/2013 6:20:37 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Kartographer

With everything seemingly hitting the fan at once, I would imagine that Obama is upping his timetable for the Cloward Piven collapse. I expect things to move briskly.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 6:20:58 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kartographer
There is no proof of this yet. Yet?

But considering the information dump of today about NSA invasion of privacy...anyone who thinks Obama won't take your pension is just refusing to face reality.

Obama is a Marxist (perhaps merely a Marxist puppet).

He knows the game plan well.

He has never deviated from the plan...NEVER!

Anyone who defends Obama as our 1st African America president will spit blood when they learn how they have been used.

Obama, like MSNBC and CNN, has been bought and paid for by anti-American forces (Sunni, Marxist?...who the h$ll knows all those who financed Obama).

Bottom line...get fit, get armed...get ready.

God bless America!

9 posted on 06/07/2013 6:21:47 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kartographer
The article is incoherent. It contains no verifiable data, is based on a mistaken premise, and was written by someone who doesn't have a basic grasp of his subject.

The part about "derivative debt" was particularly bizarre.

Pension funds already own massive amounts of US public and private debt and have done so for as long as they have existed.

10 posted on 06/07/2013 6:22:34 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

voluntarily, not because the government tells them they have to.

big difference, especially when you understand why the govt’is forcing them to buy them.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 6:25:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The government does not need to force anyone to buy treasuries, especially not pension funds.

They are benchmarked off treasuries - and their asset bases are so large they already are forced by necessity to own treasuries because there simply are not enough risk assets to buy and remain invested.

12 posted on 06/07/2013 6:30:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: whitedog57

Thank you.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 6:31:57 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: wideawake; All

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/55749


14 posted on 06/07/2013 6:31:58 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: wideawake

agree that regardless of the story, it is a huge difference in funds voluntarily purchasing what ever amount of treasuries they want, and the government forcing funds to buy treasuries’and telling them how much they have to have in their portfolios. it is.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 6:34:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kartographer
Hagmann is a loose cannon. I'd be very skeptical of anything and everything Mr. Doug has to say or has written. Some of what is warned is a no brainer, some is stretching the truth quite a bit. IMO its just smart to keep prepared and safe for a catastrophic event.
16 posted on 06/07/2013 6:58:51 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: mazda77

This Hagmann fellow has as many anonymous sources telling tales as a NYT reporter.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 7:24:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Secret Agent Man

That would be a difference. There would also be a difference between meth addicts having as much meth as they wanted and the government telling them to take more meth.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 7:26:19 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

FWIW. Just sayin’


19 posted on 06/07/2013 7:36:04 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: Kartographer

BTTT.


20 posted on 06/07/2013 7:36:26 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Kartographer
I wonder how connected this is to the recent admissions about GuvCo's massive domestic surveillance. Is that release too little, too late? The truth finally catching up? Part of some other plan(s)?

Whomever is running this, their silent coup against US was successful and until now the sleeping giant hasn't shown any signs of waking up to any of what has happened. Masterful.

Then, suddenly, all has changed and behold: a continuous and growing scandal feast fit for the very Archons of Destiny themselves.

Had to happen sometime, given the players, but so much is staged, every other word a lie, I can't help but be curious/suspicious about everything.

It's a pretty good show, or would be if it wasn't so potentially terminal, so what's the other hand doing? How many other hands are there?

One of the radio hosts was speculating about the real axis of power/communications net being Michelle obama, Holder's wife and Valerie Jarrett.

Who do they answer to? And, who all is tired of their sh!t?

So, many chickens coming home to roost, and so little room in the coup...

21 posted on 06/07/2013 8:02:17 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

” Then, suddenly, all has changed and behold: a continuous and growing scandal feast fit for the very Archons of Destiny themselves. “

Anybody seen Hillary lately?

As Benghazi swung toward Hillary, suddenly Obama scandals #1 #2 and #3 hit on the same Sunday afternoon (a few weeks ago).

The Clintons are calling in air support, artillery, MOAB’s on Obamatollah.

If need be, they’ll drop a tac nuke.

When the NYTimes flips on Omoslem, either they’re terrified they’ll get Breitbarted if they don’t stop Omoslem ASAP, or Hillary made a phone call.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 8:04:53 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: wideawake

Don’t bother reading the article. I wasted 5 minutes of my life doing so. The article is all based on the theories of some mysterious economist by the name of - I kid you not - “V”.

Maybe “V” is 100% correct, but anyone who won’t attach his real name to his theories has zero credibility in my book.


23 posted on 06/07/2013 8:11:33 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: wideawake

If just the part about the Government telling these funds where they must invest their money is incoherent, then I do not see where we have anything to discuss.

You know people and entities purchase health insurance all the time, but now the Government tells them they must and pretty much which policies they must buy, but then that is most likely incoherent to you as well.


24 posted on 06/07/2013 9:10:14 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: wideawake

To make your analogy accurate, you must first point out that the government is the one making the meth.


25 posted on 06/07/2013 9:16:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wideawake

You would also to make the analogy accurate, point out that the government would also not allow any meth addict who may hit bottom, and want to get clean and get off the very meth the government is making.


26 posted on 06/07/2013 9:19:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wideawake

“The article is incoherent. It contains no verifiable data, is based on a mistaken premise, and was written by someone who doesn’t have a basic grasp of his subject.

The part about “derivative debt” was particularly bizarre.

Pension funds already own massive amounts of US public and private debt and have done so for as long as they have existed.”

Yeah, I noticed the same things. Utter rubbish.


27 posted on 06/07/2013 9:20:18 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: LyinLibs
I raise some of Kentucky's finest in toast.

Fwiw, I'd put a pissed off Hillary up against the current axis in power any day of the week. Hillary raised Bill up all by herself and went to hell (in her mind) and back to do it. Hillary went after Nixon until they kicked her off the team for being herself.

Other than Jarrett, those girls have just been along for the ride and wound up in the power. Hillary is the Queen and they don't stand a chance.

28 posted on 06/07/2013 10:01:39 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Kartographer
The healthcare initiative was not some secret, hidden move.

It was publicly legislated by Congress.

If we just woke up one morning to find that we were compelled to buy insurance, the article - while still completely unsourced and speculative - might have been more convincing.

29 posted on 06/08/2013 1:09:51 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

LOL! You make a good Press Secretary!


30 posted on 06/08/2013 3:39:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Hah hah.

The fact remains, Obamacare happened very publicly right in front of us.

It was debated and argued over for months in every public forum.

You cannot seriously be arguing that Obamacare became law secretly without a debate or a vote.

Are you?

31 posted on 06/08/2013 4:11:06 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

The fact remains the people are being directed where they are to put their money by the Government something that seems to not concern you in the least.


32 posted on 06/08/2013 7:48:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: wideawake

I do suspect something went on with John Roberts that may have been secret.


33 posted on 06/08/2013 7:52:54 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Kartographer
the fact remains

It is not a fact.

It is a completely unsubstantiated claim made by a blogger.

The blogger's source, which I suspect is really his own imagination, is supposedly an anonymous authority who goes by the name of "V."

V, I need hardly point out, is the name of the leftist revolutionary in the favorite fantasy movie of Occupy Wall Streeters and the 911 Truthers - V Is For Vendetta.

So, the only facts we actually have are that someone who knows nothing about finance, who - if he exists in the first place - hides behind an adolescent fantasy nickname, has a paranoid theory which has no basis in verifiable facts.

Do you believe everything you read as long as it reinforces your unexamined assumptions?

34 posted on 06/08/2013 8:04:22 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: John W

I don’t. I suspect that Roberts was simply much more of a moral coward than we thought.


35 posted on 06/08/2013 8:05:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Some people are so asleep as to what is going on that they won’t wake-up and some are even so oblivious that the effort to do so is a waste of time.

You remind me of some FReepers from not that long ago who insisted that the talk of the DHS having their on armored vehicles was crazy and then when I posted a number of pictures from a story they still didn’t believe and one even claimed the pictures were ‘photoshoped’, until I showed them the same picture from the DHS’s own Home page.

Believe what you will it’s one of the great principles this country was founded on, but something like this is much akin to all the other scandals that are unfolding now before our eyes, early many didn’t believe them.


36 posted on 06/09/2013 3:39:17 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: wideawake

By the way I still think you would make someone a SUPER Press Secretary. ;-)


37 posted on 06/09/2013 3:41:17 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
That's all a lot of nonsense.

Give us one piece of verifiable fact that corroborates this ridiculous article.

You're the Jay Carney in this situation: you keep on repeating your own unfounded opinions as if they were gospel.

38 posted on 06/09/2013 5:17:58 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

So, what was the moral coward afraid of?


39 posted on 06/09/2013 5:23:08 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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Clearly he was afraid of getting the Clarence Thomas treatment by the press. He didn’t want the media to forever describe him as “the man who denied the poorest Americans healthcare.” He didn’t want to be a social pariah among DC’s smart set.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 5:29:54 AM PDT by wideawake
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