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Let the Downfall Begin
The Marine Sentinel ^ | 05/24/2013 | Marine Sentinel

Posted on 05/24/2013 9:27:33 AM PDT by Marine Sentinel

I fully support family and friends of removing their sons from a once impressionable institution. The great “lie” that children are gay is nothing more than men and women pushing an evil agenda.

America does not give up. Stand and fight for your boys and they will love you for it. This evil has not place in the lives of young boys or anyone for that matter. Do not allow these sick twisted individuals to dictate what your lives should and will be. I and every other Marine, Sailor, Soldier, Airmen, Coast Guard, and National Guardsman didn’t take an oath to defend the Constitution for nothing. This has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with perversion.

The homosexual movement isn’t done with the BSA. They will now use young impressionable minds to spread even further their sick twisted agenda throughout the Boy Scouts. Your support should stop for this organization and not fund any deviancy especially homosexuality. This is pure evil to say the least.

This evil lobby of homosexuals does not have science, law, or public opinion on their side. They only try and harass, use vulgarity, insults, most importantly “lies” and very often times violence against those to don’t accept their sick deviancy. Destruction and indoctrination—why else do you think they are invading every institution including schools, and now the Boy Scouts. The “Truth” is not being taught in sex education classes. The twisted homosexual lobby won’t allow it. I’m here to say enough.

Next the homosexuals are going after your daughters in the Girl Scouts. They are hell bent on destroying the “Family Unit,” and I will not allow it. I have been teaching my brothers and sisters children the evil that these sick twisted organizations are doing.

I am the “Tip of the Spear” on the front lines of this cultural war against our young people. I stand in as a representative of “CHRIST” against this evil spreading across our land and will defend fiercely. No one, not even the corrupt in government will stop me from exercising my rights as a ‘Christian’ and an ‘American.’

Parents, teach your children the “Truth” which is the Bible. Let no one lead them astray for if you do, you will reap judgment on yourself which in turn will affect them. Do not let anyone or anything walk over you, especially corrupt individuals in government or twisted organizations posing as good. They will meet swift judgment by the Almighty in due time.

The Boy Scouts of America is no longer what it once resembled. It is now the antithesis of what is once was, just like the military. These organizations are now in the throws of complete collapse and it will be up to the millions of Veterans across this nation to take a stand and cleanse it of the perverse and evil entities roaming throughout seeking to destroy. Molon Labe! Semper Fi!!!


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: boys; boyscouts; boyscoutsofamerica; bsa; deathofthewest; evil; homosexualagenda; homosexuals
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1 posted on 05/24/2013 9:27:33 AM PDT by Marine Sentinel
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To: Marine Sentinel

Ditto


2 posted on 05/24/2013 9:29:33 AM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: Marine Sentinel

This will touch of a battle in many Church’s where the congregation is split on the gay agenda. No doubt we will end up with two BSA’s ..GBSA and SBSA.
THe GBSA will end up with all the govt support..SBSA will be thrown out of most govt facilities. THe President will end up as the honorary Pres of the GBSA.


3 posted on 05/24/2013 9:31:08 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Marine Sentinel

We all have to persevere and not cede any PERMANENT ground to these anti-Christian, anti-America traitors. This war is not over and the war is won by those who will NOT accept defeat.


4 posted on 05/24/2013 9:32:02 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Marine Sentinel
This old Army dog stands should to shoulder with you. I'm afraid, though, that this battle (and the sum of all the battles that we're facing at the same time) isn't going to be won using three of the four boxes of freedom. Claire Wolfe's alarm clock is winding down.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

5 posted on 05/24/2013 9:34:41 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Oldexpat

Source: Gawker.com

6 posted on 05/24/2013 9:35:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Marine Sentinel

Lesbians run the GSA and now the homosexuals run the BSA (now known as Buggerers Seducing Adolescents).

They’ll end up becoming like Hitler’s Brown Shirts or Stalin’s equivalent organization. Can’t recall the name right off the top of my head.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 9:42:53 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Persevero
"Look, son... it's not us, it's the government quota. There are 50 boys in our troop, and for every 50, the government says we have to have one homosexual, or our troop will be disbanded. You drew the short straw, so you are it. "


8 posted on 05/24/2013 9:43:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Marine Sentinel

great opportunity to start a christian scouting association. either individually or by denominations, or a larger group.

but you do now see the potential trouble with a larger group.


9 posted on 05/24/2013 9:44:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Marine Sentinel

Scouting Boys of ‘Ameritopia’.


10 posted on 05/24/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Marine Sentinel
Excellent. The Boy Scouts didn't shoot themselves in the foot. They shot themselves in the head. Force feeding 97% of the population with EVIL just to satisfy the gay 3% is suicidal.

Let the BSA know how you feel. Overwhelm their server:

http://www.scouting.org/ContactUs.aspx

11 posted on 05/24/2013 9:45:21 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: wku man; Marine Sentinel
I'm afraid, though, that this battle (and the sum of all the battles that we're facing at the same time) isn't going to be won using three of the four boxes of freedom.

The time of the ballot box is over.

The time of the mail box has passed.

The time of the soap box is rapidly ending.

That leaves only one box left.

Get yours, while it's still legal...

12 posted on 05/24/2013 9:47:09 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

13 posted on 05/24/2013 9:47:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Oldexpat

These “churches” that are uncertain as to their position on gay “rights” obviously don’t understand that the purpose of the left pushing the homosexual movement is to criminalize Christianity.

Of course, the apostate churches will be allowed to continue, so maybe that’s what they’re hoping for - that the alligator will eat them last.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 9:50:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Marine Sentinel
great opportunity to start a christian scouting association. either individually or by denominations, or a larger group.

Impossible. Just the words 'CHRISTIAN' and 'SCOUTING' will ensure your tax exempt application is tied up in bureaucracy for at least 3 1/2 more years.

15 posted on 05/24/2013 9:51:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Marine Sentinel

Nambla is ecstatic about this...


16 posted on 05/24/2013 9:52:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Marine Sentinel

This is a sad day. They didn’t need to do this. What were these people thinking? The Supreme Court had the Boy Scouts’ backs when it ruled recently that they were a private organization who could set their own membership requirements. This was a mistake to buckle under pressure from the gays and cave into their demands. The Boy Scout national leadership should resign their positions and new leadership should work to overrule this decision. No good will come of this. The gays don’t want to be members of the scouts. And they will continue their public pressure until the BS cave on the gay adult leadership ban too. They want to destroy the scouts. And if this decision is allowed to stand, they will accomplish that goal.

A large majority of scouting organizations are sponsored by churches and religious organizations. I think we will see large groups of sponsors, families and their scouts leave for moral and ethical reasons. What parents wants their son foisted into a tent on a campout with a gay partner? Before we know it, the statists in our society will pressure the scouts to give up God in the organization’s principles and values.

I am an Eagle Scout, as is my son, and my whole family has been involved in scouting as members and leaders for many years. I am ashamed at what the national directors have voted to do. This is disgraceful for them to begin the process of destroying one of the finest organizations this country still had intact. They have opened the breach and this will not end well.


17 posted on 05/24/2013 9:53:25 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They’ll end up becoming like Hitler’s Brown Shirts or Stalin’s equivalent organization. Can’t recall the name right off the top of my head.

Hitler had the Hitlerjungen.

Stalin had the Young Pioneers.

Odinga already has Freedom Corps, Organizing for Action, and the new SDS (150 chapters nationwide).

18 posted on 05/24/2013 9:54:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Marine Sentinel

The Boy Scout management may think this is a great compromise, i.e., allowing boys who have homosexual feelings, while still banning avowed homosexual leaders.

In reality, this will only embolden the homosexual activists to push further, until they also change their rules to allow avowed homosexual leaders.

The camel’s nose is in the tent, so to speak, by the decision they made. They may think this will satisfy the homosexual activists. But it won’t satisfy them long term.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 9:55:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Old Sarge

Lest we forget, little barry bastard boy also has his community organizer flashmobs of cell-connected yutes (99%+ who are black). He can herd that gaggle of vermin out into the shopping malls at a moments notice.


20 posted on 05/24/2013 9:58:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Marine Sentinel

There are pedophile rings and chickenhawks at the highest levels in almost every organization. Fundamentally transforming America.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 10:04:03 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Marine Sentinel
Putting a known gay in a scout troop is just like putting a girl in where she does not belong.

Boy Scouts is for boys.

What guy is going to want to be a "Boy" scout now?

Listen y'all, I do believe that this addition of known gay boys was the real reason why they voted.

First they said they wanted gay scout leaders, but they didn't need gay scout leaders to destroy it, they just need "girls" in there.

That would do the trick.

Ah, that Obama is a real peach ain't he?

22 posted on 05/24/2013 10:09:26 AM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: Marine Sentinel

Impressive institution, not impressionable. It is young children who are impressionable.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 10:26:02 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Marine Sentinel
an alternative for Christian boys
24 posted on 05/24/2013 10:31:10 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: Marine Sentinel

After a long and protracted battle the Boy Scouts of America has finally succumbed to a terminal case of O’Sullivan’s Law. The law is named after British journalist John O’Sullivan. O’Sullivan’s Law states that any organization or enterprise that is not expressly right wing will become left wing over time.

One of the reasons for this is leftist intolerance versus right-wing tolerance. Right wingers are willing to hire openly leftist employees in the interest of fairness. Leftist tend to be utterly intolerant, not allow non-Liberals near them, and feel justified in harassing right wingers at every opportunity. The result is that over time conservative enterprises are slowly infiltrated by leftists while leftist enterprises remain the same or move even further left.

Leftism is in and of itself a form of decay, an entropy of the spirit and intellect. It’s what happens not just to nations but to television shows, churches and universities as the energy given off by the big bang of their inception slowly ebbs away. Rather than expend vitality towards originality and creation they become obsessed with introspection, popularity and lethargy.

An enterprise can stave off O’Sullivan’s Law if their creators keep it in mind and remain vigilant. Any organization that grows lackadaisical about its original values will eventually fall prey to this malady.

For example, the Annenberg Foundation was started by a Republican but it didn’t take long before O’Sullivan’s Law had them handing terrorists money for educating kids. The ACLU, the Ford Foundation and the Episcopal Church all fell to O’Sullivan’s Law.

And now, at long last, the BSA.

R.I.P.
Boy Scouts of America


25 posted on 05/24/2013 10:35:24 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Marine Sentinel

i was having a beer with a couple of marine recruiters yesterday...

found out they are told to look for only non-white kids.

non-white.

imagine if it were ‘only white’ or ‘non-black’. imagine the outrage. non-white generates no rage or even gets reported

and now... fags in the boy scouts indoctrinating your kids.

the first time a kid is molested, the parents and the BSA execs must be brought up on willful endangerment of a child.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 10:39:32 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Marine Sentinel

Very well written and right on target Marine Sentinel. If only those in charge felt the way you do.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 10:43:38 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: MrB
"...the purpose of the left pushing the homosexual movement is to criminalize Christianity."

Or to subvert it.

28 posted on 05/24/2013 10:53:21 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

“downfall” is right


29 posted on 05/24/2013 10:55:17 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Marine Sentinel

Here’s what I don’t understand.

There were openly homosexual scouts advocating for this change from within the organization - talking to the “gay” press, delivering petitions to the Scouting headquarters, campaigning for the “gayification” of the BSA from within, etc.

Why weren’t they discharged before? And what about the open ones now, when the new policy doesn’t become effective until next year? Don’t they get discharged, and then reinstated on January 1?


30 posted on 05/24/2013 11:00:58 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MHGinTN
little barry bastard boy also has his community organizer flashmobs of cell-connected yutes (99%+ who are black). He can herd that gaggle of vermin out into the shopping malls at a moments notice.

Let me offer something along those lines to you:

The London Riots

You will enjoy the read, I think.

31 posted on 05/24/2013 11:09:34 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
this will only embolden the homosexual activists to push further, until they also change their rules to allow avowed homosexual leaders.

Agreed. This was the beachhead, and now they will break out and exploit the breach.

32 posted on 05/24/2013 11:11:29 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

While I am dead set against gays in the Boy Scouts, Hitler youth attacked gays. They were not gay. As to the other poster who spoke about gays being violent, here in NY we have had a lot of heteros attacking gays lately. While I am certain it has happened, it is certainly far less common for gays to attack heteros.


33 posted on 05/24/2013 11:23:48 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Old Sarge
Fomenting racial hatred is an industry in America, not just in the UK. Very slowly, there are black people who are waking up to realize their race is being exploited, to generate hate that keeps We The People divided so the elites can rule the fractured constituencies because as a people we never come to focus upon the real evil in our midst.

M. Scott Peck wrote an excellent book on the topic, though he focused upon the individual application of the evil he identified. His premise is perfectly applicable to masses being herded (People Of The Lie, by M. Scott Peck).

34 posted on 05/24/2013 11:26:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: sakic
here in NY we have had a lot of heteros attacking gays lately. While I am certain it has happened, it is certainly far less common for gays to attack heteros

What planet are you on?

Calling someone intolerant and bigoted and homophone is an attack. Forcing kids to sit in class and listen to their propaganda is an attack.

Pointing out that their behavior is abnormal and immoral is NOT an attack.

35 posted on 05/24/2013 11:28:12 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: sakic

“While I am dead set against gays in the Boy Scouts, Hitler youth attacked gays.”

They attacked pro-Stalin homosexuals or didn’t agree with Hitler.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 11:28:26 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: sakic

“While I am certain it has happened, it is certainly far less common for gays to attack heteros.”

Homosexuals have led most of the Fascist movements of the 20th century that resulted in about the murder of 250 million people. Yep, far less common.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 11:29:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: sakic

These so-called gays (queers) like to attack our young kids not on the street, but in dark corners, empty classrooms, and now in boy scout tents.

What a wonderful, peaceful group of maggots they are.


38 posted on 05/24/2013 11:32:09 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

The demonic knows when boys are most vulnerable to degeneracy, and if started soon enough in their development, it infects their growth and devlopment as young men. What the leadership of the BSA have done is sell the souls of scouts to the demonic manipualtion ... and sadly, they know what they have done and have sold their souls and done it! My grandson is no longer a Scout. Too dangerous.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 11:34:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Hmmm. I’ve not heard of Peck’s works before. Another one to add to the research list. Thanks!


40 posted on 05/24/2013 11:40:16 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Marine Sentinel

bttt


41 posted on 05/24/2013 11:51:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Marine Sentinel

There is no way children are old enough or mature enough to know if they’re gay, straight, or something else.


42 posted on 05/24/2013 2:04:26 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: GeronL

I meant physical. That wasn’t clear?


43 posted on 05/25/2013 12:01:31 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You’re saying that the Nazis did not go after all known gay people? Really?


44 posted on 05/25/2013 12:03:05 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Who are you talking about?

I merely pointed out that in NY there have been a lot of recent physical attacks against gays, including murder. Gays are bad for a lot of things but they suffer far more physical violence than they administer. Is this a point of contention to you?


45 posted on 05/25/2013 12:07:11 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic

No. Just making a point.


46 posted on 05/25/2013 3:57:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: sakic

They did. Those that disagreed with Hitler or were pro-Stalinists.


47 posted on 05/25/2013 3:58:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: sakic; Jack Hydrazine
33 While I am dead set against gays in the Boy Scouts, Hitler youth attacked gays. They were not gay. As to the other poster who spoke about gays being violent, here in NY we have had a lot of heteros attacking gays lately. While I am certain it has happened, it is certainly far less common for gays to attack heteros.

1900s - In Central Europe (Austria/Hungary/Germany) an informal hiking and camping society of young men emerged in the Wandervoegel (Wandering Youth) movement. Its goal was to revive the ancient Greek ideal of pedagogic pederasty. A substantial number of the Wandervoegel leaders were known homosexuals.

1922–1945 - The Wandervoegel movement became the core of the Hitler-Jugend (HJ, Hitler Youth). The HJ was the 2nd oldest paramilitary Nazi group (after the SA). Baldur von Schirach was appointed 'Reichsjugendführer' on 6/17/1933 and issued regulations after his inauguration which suspended or forbade existing all other youth organizations. The HJ was made up of the Hitlerjugend proper, for male youth aged 14 to 18 and the younger boys' section, Deutsches Jungvolk, for those aged 10 to 14. The Boy Scout movement and the Jünglingsverein, the German equivalent of the YMCA, were banned in Germany in 1934 and the HJ absorbed many of their members. The HJ appropriated many of Scouting’s activities, but changed its content and intention. The HJ were viewed as future "Aryan supermen" and were indoctrinated in anti-Semitism. One aim was to instill the motivation that would enable HJ members, as soldiers, to fight faithfully for the Third Reich. The HJ put more emphasis on physical and military training than on academic study. Some cruelty by the older boys toward the younger ones was tolerated and even encouraged, since it was believed this would weed out the unfit and harden the rest. The Evangelische Jugend, a Lutheran youth organization of 600,000 members, was integrated into the HJ on 2/18/1934 (The Lutheran Church was the state church of Germany at that time.). The "Gesetz über die Hitlerjugend" (law about the HJ) was passed on 12/01/1936 and required all eligible juveniles to be a member of the HJ or the BDM. Members had to be ethnic Germans, German citizens, and free of hereditary diseases.

The Bund Deutscher Mädel (BDM, League of German Maidens) was the girls' wing of the HJ. At 1st, the BDM consisted of 2 sections: the Jungmädel, or Young Girls League, for girls ages 10 to 14, and the League proper for girls ages 14 to 18. The BDM used campfire romanticism, summer camps, folklorism, tradition, and sports to educate girls within the National Socialist belief system, and to train them for their roles in German society: wife, mother, and homemaker. In 1938, a 3rd section was introduced, BDM-Werk Glaube und Schönheit (the Faith and Beauty Society), which was voluntary and open to girls between the ages of 17 and 21. It was intended to groom young women for marriage, domestic life, and future career goals. Ideally, girls were to be married and have children once they were of age, but importance was also placed on job training and education. The BDM instructed girls to avoid Rassenschande or racial defilement, which was treated with particular importance for young females. It also encouraged rebellion against parents.

Members of HJ and the BDM were lectured on the need to produce more children. Children born out-of-wedlock were not considered problematic. These and other behaviors taught by the HJ leadership led parents to complain that their authority was being undermined. In 1944, a group of parents complained to the court that the leaders of the BDM were openly telling their daughters to have illegitimate children. Public opinion attributed a great deal of sexual laxity to the members.

Membership in the HJ was seen as an important stepping stone for boys to future membership in the elite Schutzstaffel (SS, Protection Squadron or defense corps). By DEC 1936, HJ membership stood at just over 5 million. That same month, HJ membership became mandatory for Aryans. From then on, most of Germany's teenagers belonged to the HJ. By 1940, it had 8 million members. Most of the adult supervisors of the HJ were also Sturmabteilung (SA, Storm Detachment or Assault Division, also referred to as Brownshirts). The SA functioned as the original paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. SA officers were almost exclusively homosexual. Ernst Röhm was a co-founder of the SA and later its commander. He was a notorious open homosexual. Adolf Hitler personally arrested Röhm and ordered the arrest of other SA leaders on 6/30/1934 in a plot to eliminate them, not because of their homosexuality, but as rivals to his consolidation of power. Historians later called this political purge, “The Night of the Long Knives.” They were all executed in prisons on 7/02/1934. Homosexual activity continued on into the war years when HJ boys frequently became victims of molestations at the hands of their SS tutors. The HJ was disbanded by Allied authorities as part of the denazification process after VE Day. Many adult leaders of the HJ were put on trial by Allied authorities, and Baldur von Schirach was sentenced to 20 years in prison. However, he was convicted of crimes against humanity for his actions as Gauleiter of Vienna, not his leadership of the HJ. The traditional scouting movement and YMCA were re-introduced in West Germany and Berlin after 1945. Today there are ~150 scouting associations in Germany.

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

1995 - Scott Lively’s and Kevin Abrams’ book, The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, was published. Its theme was that “butch” homosexuals within the Nazi Party contributed to the extreme militarism and barbarism of Nazi Germany. The authors maintained that a key to understanding the cause of the German social collapse, which culminated in the atrocities of the Third Reich, was found in the conflict of Hellenic and Hebrew (Judeo-Christian) value systems. This war of philosophies, as old as Western civilization itself, pit the homoeroticism of the Greeks against the marriage-and-family-centered heterosexuality of the Jews. Although the Nazis included homosexuals in their persecutions (though at a much lower level than homosexualists contend), the homosexuals they persecuted were almost exclusively the effeminate members of the homosexual community (who they claimed were also very active in the communist party, and therefore political rivals) in Germany. Lively and Abrams also contended that much of the mistreatment in the concentration camps was administered by masculine homosexuals who despised effeminacy in all its forms. The book, and authors, have been subjected to heavy criticism from the homosexual lobby. Lively is an author, attorney, and activist, noted for his opposition to LGBTQ rights and his involvement in the ex-gay movement. He is the president of Abiding Truth Ministries, a conservative Christian organization located in Temecula, CA, and the former state director of the CA branch of the American Family Association. He is currently being sued in federal court in MA for inciting persecution of homosexuals during a Uganda speaking tour in 2009. The financial backer of the plaintiff is billionaire financier, 1-world government advocate, and financial donor to many left-wing causes, George Soros. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) designated Abiding Truth Ministries and The American Family Association as hate groups.

48 posted on 05/27/2013 9:22:49 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

A couple of things.

The book you are quoting has been overwhelmingly discredited by historians. You could blame this on some sort of conspiracy, because thereis no other way to refute the historians.

More importantly, both of my parents are Holocaust survivors and my whole childhood was spent surrounded by other Holocaust survivors.

When this topic is brought up to them they laugh at the notion of homosexuality as being part of the core of Nazism. Just because homosexuality is bad does not mean it is to blame for things it has nothing to do with. The idea that a movement partially dedicated to wiping homosexuals out was homosexual in reality is a funny one.

If you believe that Nazis hated homosexuals and were homosexual, it sounds an awful like those on the left who claim that people against homosexuality are really afraid of homosexuals because of their own fears of their own homosexuality.


49 posted on 05/28/2013 3:33:25 AM PDT by sakic
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here in NY we have had a lot of heteros normal people attacking gays filthy, disease-ridden queers lately.

Now, the "attacks" may not be justified. The "attacks" might be tactically or strategically unwise. But that discussion obscures the larger issue.

There are no "heteros". That is a made-up queer propaganda word, intended to draw a false moral equivalency between normal humans and mentally deranged perverts.

There are no "gays". There are foul folk who have dedicated their miserable lives to fostering perversion, inflicting perversion on unsuspecting youth, and fundamentally transforming a relatively healthy society into a deranged, defiled orgy of self-destructive perversion.

Your precious, "oppressed" perverts are doing the same thing the NSDAP, the Bolsheviks, and the Maoists did. They are doing the same thing the islamists are doing now. They are trying to re-shape society in their own evil image.

it is certainly far less common for gays to attack heteros.

Again with the queer propaganda words ... Again with the attempt to paint militant perverts as victims. FAIL. Your precious perverts attack normal folk and normal society as a matter of course. Aside from the pederasty inherent to the queer lifestyle, the very existence of organized, militant perversion is an attack on normal society.

50 posted on 05/28/2013 3:49:22 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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