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Swiss Vetterli Carbine from 1800's turned in at Phoenix Gun Turn in (buyback)
Gun Watch ^ | 20 May, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/19/2013 9:56:21 AM PDT by marktwain

Swiss Vetterli Carbine Circa 1870

This Vetterli carbine was turned in very early on May 18, 2013, at the Phoenix gun turn in event. I photographed it on the turn in table at about 8:09 am. I cannot Identify it further, and this is the only picture that I have. Does anyone know if this is an original carbine, or is it a later conversion? The rifle was manufactured about 1870.

Dean Weingarten


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Hobbies; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; buyback; guncontrol; phoenix; secondamendment; turnin
Too bad that a rare antique such as this has to be destroyed in a deodand ceremony.
1 posted on 05/19/2013 9:56:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Wouldn't they check to see if any of the guns have been stolen property before they destroy them?

There is probably some owner out there who is still checking pawn shops for his gun.

2 posted on 05/19/2013 10:05:01 AM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: marktwain

I was just thinking to myself, if any of them were honest people, they’d tell the owner of that antique firearm to go to a reputable dealer and see how much they could get for it. But, so few police are honest, and the ex-owner of that fine firearm got screwed over pretty bad.


3 posted on 05/19/2013 10:06:09 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: marktwain

10.4mm Swiss rim fire ammo was last produced before WWII. A single round runs $25 and it likely won’t fire.

Thank goodness this dangerous assault rifle (12 rd magazine) was taken off our streets!


4 posted on 05/19/2013 10:11:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

All Swiss Vetterli carbines are conversions of rifles. The true cavalry carbines were Steyrs of a totally different design.


5 posted on 05/19/2013 10:14:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

It’s worth a few hundred bucks. This is what the Swiss Army was using when we still had single-shot trapdoor Springfields.


6 posted on 05/19/2013 10:22:39 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SampleMan

There is a way to convert them to centerfire, but you still have to make the ammo.


7 posted on 05/19/2013 10:23:20 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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8 posted on 05/19/2013 10:23:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: SampleMan

“All Swiss Vetterli carbines are conversions of rifles. The true cavalry carbines were Steyrs of a totally different design.”

True, but I think there were some “official” carbines made from rifles, and a lot of unofficial carbines that were made later.


9 posted on 05/19/2013 10:25:01 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: ozzymandus; All

“It’s worth a few hundred bucks. This is what the Swiss Army was using when we still had single-shot trapdoor Springfields.”

Yes. The first magazine fed bolt action rifle. It was so successful, the Swiss never had to use it in combat. A military rifle can hardly be more successful than that... though you could argue that success could be measured by how many other countries adopt your design...


10 posted on 05/19/2013 10:40:20 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Couple of months ago woman brought WW 2 German Sturm
Gewehr to a gun buy back.

Cops did not destroy it, but gave back to her to sell as
is worth about $25,000.........


11 posted on 05/19/2013 10:54:35 AM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: marktwain

Hard telling which antique model it is but here is a site with all things Swiss

http://www.swissrifles.com/vetterli/

and info on Swiss and other old rifles here:

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=37&sid=3e2131d54d1ff7f7167ef497725b55f4


12 posted on 05/19/2013 11:11:37 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: marktwain

Yes, I was talking about arsenal conversions and not Bubba conversions


13 posted on 05/19/2013 11:17:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ozzymandus

Yes, I’m doing that with one of mine.


14 posted on 05/19/2013 11:18:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: wastedyears
I was just thinking to myself, if any of them were honest people, they’d tell the owner of that antique firearm to go to a reputable dealer and see how much they could get for it. But, so few police are honest, and the ex-owner of that fine firearm got screwed over pretty bad.

Yes and no. He was ignorant enough or PC enough to take his guy to a "buyback" instead of engaging in normal commerce in the first place, so don't feel too sorry for him. Feel sorry that someone wiser didn't have possession of the rifle.

15 posted on 05/19/2013 12:25:30 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SampleMan

I had some (and an original box!) and now I can’t find it!


16 posted on 05/19/2013 12:26:52 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

The AZ Governor just signed a Law that weapons turned in to Police will be resold to fund the local Police Departments.

The only Guns they will destroy are ones that are unsafe.

AZ is still a Free State thank God (and Governor Brewer).


17 posted on 05/19/2013 12:32:31 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (America has a two Party system, the Tea Party and the Communist Party.)
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To: marktwain

deodand = good word.


18 posted on 05/19/2013 1:28:13 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Half black,half white......A SKUNK?........................ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.(It"s the Law))
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