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The Benghazi Stand Down - David Patraeus, Kip Ward and Carter Ham
Radio Free NJ ^ | 5/8/2013 | frithguild

Posted on 05/08/2013 4:08:45 PM PDT by frithguild

In the Google Purge Pt. 3, I wondered whether a search algorithm uncovered emails that led to the downfall of Kip Ward. The story of his demotion hit the news in November of 2012. This followed when we learned about 20,000 emails between Jill Kelley and Marine Gen. John R. Allen. Before that David Patraeus was taken down in what I argued was a purge of the administration moderates. I didn't have any idea why this was happening, but I could see that something was happening. So I just called attention to the role Google may have played in digging out the damaging dirt.

As the Benghazi story heats up, however, something occurred to me when I read a story over at Breitbart. Somebody knows whether POTUS gave the order to special forces stand down, but they aren't saying. The Breitbart story described the chain of command for reporting that the embassy was under attack:

According to the source, when the attack on the Consulate occurred, a specific chain of command to gain verbal permission to move special-forces in must have occurred. SOCAFRICA commander Lieutenant Col. Gibson would have contacted a desk officer at the time, asking for that permission.

That desk officer would have called Marine Corps Col. George Bristol, then in command of Joint Special Operations Task Force-Trans Sahara. From there, Bristol would have made contact with Rear Admiral Brian Losey, then Commander of Special Operations Command Africa. Losey would have contacted four-star General Carter Ham, commander of U.S. AFRICOM at the time.

“Ham answers directly to the President of the United States,” said the source. It wasn’t a low-level bureaucrat making the call, the source adamantly added.

Who was the predecessor for Carter Ham at U.S. AFRICOM until March 2011, and who wasn't demoted until November 2012?

Kip Ward.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; crossborderauthority; standdown
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1 posted on 05/08/2013 4:08:45 PM PDT by frithguild
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To: frithguild

Can anyone write concisely anymore?

What’s this guy’s point?


2 posted on 05/08/2013 4:12:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: frithguild

Google is complicit in this entire treasonous crowd of progs.


3 posted on 05/08/2013 4:14:08 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: frithguild
Who was the predecessor for Carter Ham at U.S. AFRICOM until March 2011, and who wasn't demoted until November 2012? Kip Ward.

So if Kip War wasn't in the position on Sept. 11, what does the date of his demotion matter?

4 posted on 05/08/2013 4:18:09 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

I mean “Ward”.


5 posted on 05/08/2013 4:18:50 PM PDT by what's up
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To: frithguild

The silence of the Generals and Admirals is contrary to their oaths. WHERE IS THEIR HONOR?


6 posted on 05/08/2013 4:20:55 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: frithguild

““Ham answers directly to the President of the United States,” said the source. It wasn’t a low-level bureaucrat making the call, the source adamantly added.”

Exactly. This is all 0bama’s.


7 posted on 05/08/2013 4:24:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: NonValueAdded

0bama has replaced almost all of the men at the top with his toadies.


8 posted on 05/08/2013 4:25:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: frithguild

I read it, but what is the import?


9 posted on 05/08/2013 4:29:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: combat_boots
<0bama has replaced almost all of the men at the top with his toadies.> That's the Obama Two-step...use'em..abuse'em..and then throw them away.
10 posted on 05/08/2013 4:29:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: NonValueAdded

Their honor is classified???

No one has asked them?


11 posted on 05/08/2013 4:30:00 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: frithguild

<....SOCAFRICA commander Lieutenant Col. Gibson would have contacted a desk officer at the time, asking for that permission....>

Hicks was asked to day...”Who gave the order to stand down?”

His reply was that was ..”something they would need to ask Col.Gibson about.”


12 posted on 05/08/2013 4:32:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: combat_boots

Ham knows the truth, I feel bad for him, his wife is sick and I am positive they have and are using Internet information against him. The conversation I imagine went like this, you want to retire and take care of your wife? Plan be is we release all this information and disgrace you.

Petreous called their bluff and was destroyed , notice that has all but disappeared .

If these public people have anything to hide these people will exploit them . Jeff Flake is the latest victim I am guessing. Same for Rubio.


13 posted on 05/08/2013 4:37:10 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; Jet Jaguar

Ping


14 posted on 05/08/2013 4:38:42 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: frithguild

I’ve been wondering just where Mr. Broadwell is on spilling the Ben Ghazi beans.


15 posted on 05/08/2013 4:42:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: crosslink

I understand that reasoning but at this point..if the man has a shred of decency and honor left...he will come forward...Katy bar the door.

Our country is literally at stake..our military readiness and cohesion is at stake..everyone’s future is at stake!

Time for the perfumed princes of the pentagon to step up!!


16 posted on 05/08/2013 4:46:15 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Good question.


17 posted on 05/08/2013 4:51:02 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: combat_boots

Exactly. BO gives the orders and no one else. He is the elephant in the room that no one today seemed to want to talk about. Why isn’t his name used as much as Hillary? Those 2 were in cahoots over something bad going on in Benghazi. I think the kidnapping theory is plausible and it went horribly wrong.


18 posted on 05/08/2013 5:06:39 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: frithguild
TREASON is the reason.


19 posted on 05/08/2013 5:09:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Hillary is being thrown under the bus to prepare the way for President Michelle.


20 posted on 05/08/2013 5:10:31 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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