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There Are No ‘Absolute’ Rights
The Daily Beast ^ | May 5, 2013 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 05/05/2013 10:11:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Every time I write a column on guns, the howl arises that I am talking about a right that is enshrined in the Constitution, buddy, and I better watch myself. The howl then transmutes into an extended harangue that this right is absolute, and no libtard fascist, whether me or the Satanesque Dianne Feinstein, is going to limit the right in any way. The first soldier to charge across this rhetorical veld is followed by hundreds harrumphing their assent. The only problem is that it’s an ahistorical, afactual, and barbaric argument. No right is absolute. In fact, the Second Amendment arguably has fewer restrictions on it these days than many of the other first ten, and there is and should be no guarantee that things are going to stay that way. In fact, if we’re ever going to be serious about trying to stop this mass butchery that we endure every few months, they cannot.

Let’s begin by going down the list and reviewing various limits placed on nearly all the amendments of the Bill of Rights (I thank Doug Kendall of the Constitutional Accountability Center for helping me out here). The First Amendment, of course, guarantees the right to free speech and assembly, and to worship as one pleases. There haven’t been that many restrictions placed on the freedom to worship in the United States, although there is a steady stream of cases involving some local government or school board preventing someone from wearing religious clothing or facial hair or what have you. Sometimes a Christian school or church is denied a zoning permit; but more often it’s the freedom to worship of a minority (Muslim, Sikh, etc) that is threatened.

As for free speech....

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 05/05/2013 10:11:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

just another a$$ hat


2 posted on 05/05/2013 10:16:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I honestly wish we could leave these people in the hell hole they want to live in.


3 posted on 05/05/2013 10:22:07 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What he means is the only absolute right belongs to his own islamo/socialist/nazists.

They can’t chop his head off fast enough for me.


4 posted on 05/05/2013 10:23:39 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Nifster

Not just another A$$ Hat, He’s a Captain A$$ Hat looking to be promoted to Major A$$ Hat!


5 posted on 05/05/2013 10:25:40 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t get it...why are we wasting time on this fascist?


6 posted on 05/05/2013 10:27:21 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will the author then agree that his right to live can be
legally rescinded without any causal action on his part?
That would be equivalent to gun control laws imposed
on law abiding citizens.
7 posted on 05/05/2013 10:37:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here’s one restriction on the Bill of Rights that I’d wager most conservatives would happily approve of. In 1988, the HHS under Reagan promulgated rules prohibiting a family-planning professional at a clinic that received federal dollars from “promoting” (i.e. telling a woman about) abortion. This was challenged partially on free-speech grounds. In Rust v. Sullivan (1991), the Supreme Court held that these rules did not violate the clinicians’ free-speech rights. So far as I can see, this is still law. It’s just one example from many free-speech restrictions that have been imposed over the years, as you can see here.

This is a stupid, disingenuous example. The law he describes in no way interferes with freedom of speech. It simply says that you can't say certain things and expect to get government funding. Since there can be no inherent inalienable right to government funding, there is no violation of any right here.

FAIL.

8 posted on 05/05/2013 10:39:17 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Mr. Tomasky;

“...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...”

Now if you want to do away with self evident truths such as the God given right to self defense, then read what good citizens should do.

Good luck.

9 posted on 05/05/2013 10:40:00 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: stormhill; 2ndDivisionVet
why are we wasting time on this fascist?

wait..... I know this one...

"Know they enemy" and "Expose his lies".

10 posted on 05/05/2013 10:41:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Like this:

YOU’RE KIDDING! NRA pushes guns on kids as young as Newtown victims in sick ‘Youth Day’
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kidding-nra-pushes-guns-kids-young-newtown-victims-sick-youth-day-article-1.1335901#ixzz2SULBnWCE


11 posted on 05/05/2013 10:42:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is the rest of the article as bad as the excerpt?


12 posted on 05/05/2013 10:44:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Worse.


13 posted on 05/05/2013 10:45:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The right to self defense is absolute and that most especially includes the right to defend one's self against a tyarnical government. This isn't a right that a government granted, it is a right endowed to all free men by their creator that was recognized and codified as part of the supreme law of this land and, as such, no government of this nation has the authority to deny it and if they attempt to do so, free men are well advised to disregard such laws should they be enacted and to offer up all manner of resistance as necessary.

It was our forefather's intention that we were to be their masters and that means they intended for us to be well armed and for them to be small and minimally obtrusive.

14 posted on 05/05/2013 10:45:37 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Clock King
You mean like this?


15 posted on 05/05/2013 10:48:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK... Thanks.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 10:50:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

It is Michael Tomasky, after all. If Keith Olberman and Gary Younge had a love child.....


17 posted on 05/05/2013 10:51:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can we all agree that I absolutely have the right to bear arms on your property whether you permit it or not and any law saying I don’t have that right is an infringement?


18 posted on 05/05/2013 10:54:27 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if the writer believes there are any ‘absolute’ lefts ?


19 posted on 05/05/2013 11:00:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Can we all agree that I absolutely have the right to bear arms on your property whether you permit it or not and any law saying I don’t have that right is an infringement?

Since you absolutely have no right to be on my property without my permission, then whether you do or don't happen to be bearing arms while you are violating my property rights is irrelevant.

20 posted on 05/05/2013 11:02:40 PM PDT by Maceman
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