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Public School Lobbying Worse Than 'Skunk Works'
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 4/30/2013 | Jarrett Skorup

Posted on 05/03/2013 6:45:36 AM PDT by MichCapCon

A group of charter public school advocates, private-sector business people and state employees have been meeting to come up with ideas on how to provide better public education at a lower cost through technology and competition. The group hopes to provide a “value school” model costing about $5,000 per pupil, reports The Detroit News, which broke the story.

If it works, this would mean an education at substantially less than the $13,000 school districts receive now in per-student revenue or even the roughly $7,000 per pupil they receive strictly from the state.

Most of the criticism of the program has been partisan in nature or has come from public-sector unions that will, of course, fight any threat to their virtual monopoly. While it is correct to say that it is in the self-interest of charter public school operators to expand school choice, it is just as true that it is in the unions interest to restrict choice, competition and even technological advances if it would mean fewer union jobs.

In their own words, the education unions candidly admit that they exist for their employees; not the educational interests of students.

But the criticism of the program in the media reveals somewhat of a double-standard.

For example, the Detroit Free Press editorialized to “keep backroom dealings out of the classroom.”

It’s fine to take input from across the spectrum, but these are not conversations that should happen behind closed doors. If [Lansing Attorney and Mackinac Center board member, Richard] McLellan and the others have great ideas for education in Michigan, they ought to put them out on the table with everyone else’s, and entertain a reasonable public discussion about where the state should be headed. In the meantime, just a few days ago, Michigan Capitol Confidential broke a story revealing that the 86 school districts in Oakland, Macomb and Wayne counties were funneling money through the Oakland Schools ISD to be used on actual political lobbying. Through public information requests, it was shown that the ISD operates as a type of front group to get money to the Tri-County Alliance, an advocacy group run by the former chief-of-staff for the Senate Minority Leader.

No other media have picked up on that story, but one can find dozens of articles on the “skunk works” group — though the former involves taxpayer money and actual lobbying while the latter is simply individuals trying to come up with an educational plan in discussions amongst interested parties.

Amidst the debate, one thing is most important to keep in mind: The “value school” model and charter schools in general can only happen if parents willfully choose to send their kids to those schools. If there are ways to provide just as good or better of an education at a cheaper cost to taxpayers, it should be pursued.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: lobbying; publiceducation; publicschools; schoolchoice; unions

1 posted on 05/03/2013 6:45:36 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

This “SkunkWorks”?

http://www.roadrunnersinternationale.com/transporting_the_a-12.html?m=8


2 posted on 05/03/2013 6:49:19 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: MichCapCon

Bit of a non-sequitur here, if that’s the right word.

Skunk Works cherished greatness, valued learned minds and nurtured them in order to produce extraordinary results.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 6:49:36 AM PDT by golux
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To: MichCapCon

How about bringing back American manufacturing from foreign countries, so we can budget for exactly that battle once again.

Just saying.

At the moment we are cutting both. What we are doing is building up our biggest rival right now.

That rival is already larger than America.


4 posted on 05/03/2013 6:52:04 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: golux

Yeah I thought that was a crummy headline too. My first thought was “so what if the Skunk Works had lobbyists, they built the SR71!” I’ve never heard of the skunk works this guy is talking about.


5 posted on 05/03/2013 6:59:21 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Springman; Sioux-san; 70th Division; JPG; PGalt; DuncanWaring; taildragger; epluribus_2; Chuck54; ..
Nothing irritates me more than hearing a teacher claim to be some kind of "Advocate of the children". Nobody asked them to represent the children and they're lying when they say it.

If anyone wants to be added to the Michigan Cap Con ping list, let me know.
6 posted on 05/03/2013 7:00:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Slump Tester

Yeah, that was the liberal BS I was indoctrinated with: “A $400.00 hammer?” and all that crap.

Now I think:

A “military industrial complex” that can get the Soviets to ship their titanium here, so we can build a plane to uncover their plans to destroy individual liberty? The most insanely awesome airplane ever even imagined?

Sell me that hammer, boys!

Now it’s like:

“yeah, that F-22. It’s not really needed.”

“Sorry, space? Not really important.”

“what we need is more drones and stuff. Cheaper.”

“Mothball this, mothball that...”

Raising taxes though like a MoFo!


7 posted on 05/03/2013 7:20:31 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
Those 400 dollar hammers paid for the R&D that built the stuff that kept us free and provided jobs. (After the companies paid taxes and survived wasteful regulation.)

My father was an engineer. He couldn't believe the amounts of their own money that companies had to spend on R&D. Then the gov would end up buying something else instead that had been developed with gov money. (It didn't matter if it was actually better or not.)

After losing companies were left holding the R&D bag, the government would then tell them who they could or couldn't sell their stuff to.

Northrop's F20 Tigershark comes to mind. WE should have bought that jewel!

8 posted on 05/03/2013 9:33:53 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

The best book on this subject, generally, is “THE LEGACY OF THE WHITE OAK LABORATORY.” (Naval Ordinance Labs.) It is an absolutely awesome read for anyone with a scientific mind and a sense of humor - and drama.


9 posted on 05/03/2013 3:05:48 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux
Dang! I'd like to read that, but I'm too broke right now. The cheapest I found it was on Ebay for $15 + shipping.

I was hoping my library would have it or even Amazon for really cheap, but they don't.

10 posted on 05/03/2013 8:12:12 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

$15 isn’t bad. As I remember mine was north of $50.00. (And I have bought a few as gifts.) There was one printing and there will probably never be another.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 9:24:25 AM PDT by golux
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