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Not only was it not terrorist, I doubt it was even cargo-shift. It has the look of simple (and I might add classic) steep climb stall. Once the aircraft stalled, clearly the nose dropped (as it is supposed to do) and the pilot appeared to be regaining control. Another 12-1500 feet of altitude and it might have been the most impressive ‘buzzing’ of the field ever recorded.

And yes, this exact type of accident has happened before. When you get that much mass rotating that quickly, Mr. Newton takes over and makes it continue to rotate even as the pilot commands it to stop. As some point airspeed diminishes below stalling speed, and you become a passenger until the nose drops and airspeed is regained. Hopefully you don’t run out of altitude before that happens.


10 posted on 05/02/2013 8:56:00 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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Another 12-1500 feet of altitude and it might have been the most impressive ‘buzzing’ of the field ever recorded.

Maybe in a Cessna 150 but more like 5,000’ in a 747


24 posted on 05/02/2013 9:29:53 AM PDT by newbolt
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steep climb stall

That is what a cargo shift causes.

When you get that much mass rotating that quickly, Mr. Newton takes over and makes it continue to rotate even as the pilot commands it to stop

Not unless you are below controllable airspeed. First of all during climb out you aren't 'rotating' at all. That happened just as the plane lifted off. By the time you are at a thousand feed there has not been any rotation for a while.... unless you command one, lose engine power, of your CG moves aft suddenly (cargo shift). Planes are controllable. Momentum is pretty easy to overcome as long as air is moving over your control surfaces. Once that stops momentum is only one of your many worries :P
46 posted on 05/02/2013 10:49:05 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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