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To: Fantasywriter
It’s personal w you & Butter, isn’t it, LL?

Not at all. Can you find anything I have ever said to her that would support such an accusation?

Let me ask you something. Put another way. Do you see Obama as basically honest or dishonest? If you see him as honest...are you serious? After watching him for five or six yrs, you actually believe he is straightforward, aboveboard, truthful & trustworthy? Cite your reasons, please.

I do not see Obama as basically honest, and have never said anything, on this or any other forum, that would support such a claim.

If dishonest, then answer this. Do you think he’s often engaged in shading or distorting the truth, or outright lying [as in his repeated statements that the Republicans, not his own WH, proposed sequester], but in one area he’s the model of integrity: i.e.: the area that deals w his birth, his records, his draft registration, etc.?

There is a difference between lying about his political opponents and masterminding a wide-ranging conspiracy involving hundreds of people that has altered (as Butterdezilion claims) the copies of every newspaper with his birth announcements in libraries around the world. I find some of Butterdezilion's theories far-fetched, and I don't think they add to the credibility of those of us who oppose Obama on political grounds.

So I’m asking you, as a former liberal to a current liberal,

I've been posting of FR since 1998. Please cite some basis for accusing me of being a liberal.

are you aware of the times when Obama out & out lies? Is that okay w you, ‘because they all do it’? Or do you actually see him as more honest than the typical pol, & therefore above pulling any funny business w, for instance, his draft registration. Thank you in advance.

Obama's lies are not OK with me. I have never said that Obama doesn't lie; of course he does.

I am a lawyer. My posts on eligibility threads (including this one) are almost 100% on the legal issues involved. My predictions about what courts would do have been 100% right for as long as I have been posting on eligibility threads (which has been more than four years now.

I have no idea if Obama's draft registration is OK or not; I am not a forensic document examiner, and I have never posted any comment on that issue one way or another. I do know that any discrepancy in the draft records of a sitting President is not something that gives any U.S. court jurisdiction to remove the President from office.

117 posted on 04/08/2013 11:11:40 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Cold Case Posse Supporter

“I do know that any discrepancy in the draft records of a sitting President is not something that gives any U.S. court jurisdiction to remove the President from office.”

And you know this how?

How about if the “discrepancy” was that Barry NEVER filed for the draft because he knowingly hid a foreign birth and was using both a foreign nationality at college and a forged CT SS# identity and was a member of Ayers and Dorhn’s terrorist bank robbing gang?

If it can be proved in criminal court that Barry gained the presidency using a forged BC to hide his foreign birth, Barry may well have “failed to qualify” as president SCOTUS might rule that Barry doesn’t even qualify for impeachment having never actually been president.

Do you know how SCOTUS will rule in such a case of identity fraud of which the selective service forgery might be a part?


118 posted on 04/08/2013 12:45:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I based most of what I wrote on a post I read on ObamaConspiracy. Some time back I was curious as to how the most extreme Obama-supporters/defenders handled certain issues & questions. I spent about a wk touring some of the most radically pro-Obama sites on the web. On ObamaConspiracy I came upon the post of someone who talked about what an idiot he was making of a certain longtime Freeper. I followed the link, which led directly to an exchange between you, LL, & the particular Freeper in question. None of this struck me as something a conservative would do, hence my inferences.


119 posted on 04/08/2013 3:17:06 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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