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The Chart That Will Crash The Market
Market-Ticker ^ | 4/3/13 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 04/03/2013 4:37:24 PM PDT by Kartographer

That's it. And the ADP report this morning is showing the pathway to recognition, as construction has stalled and the destruction of job creation in small and mid-sized businesses exposed to Obamacare will finish it off.

I continue to maintain that we're in a time very similar to 2007, when the facts were on the table. Banks paying dividends with money they didn't have. Hedge funds that blow. Bubbles in crazy places, then housing, this time in subprime car lending, student loans and even Bitcon.

The transports are telling you that all is not well. CAT is confirming it. Copper is warning that we're in deep trouble internationally, and irrespective of the claim that "America benefits from everyone else's pain" that's only partially true -- in the end earnings are what drive stock prices, and the red flags are waving at warp speed on earnings.

(Excerpt) Read more at market-ticker.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; denninger; smallbusiness; stockmarket; unemployment

1 posted on 04/03/2013 4:37:24 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: blam

Ping!


2 posted on 04/03/2013 4:37:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

4 years ago they laughed at me when I tried to get a business loan.

Now they are throwing it at me.

Really strange


3 posted on 04/03/2013 4:44:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

And there you have it...


4 posted on 04/03/2013 4:49:10 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: Kartographer

Could part of this be explained by Baby Boomers retiring?


5 posted on 04/03/2013 4:49:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Who can afford to retire?


6 posted on 04/03/2013 4:50:45 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Don’t worry, I’m sure the government will endorse something to kick the economy while it’s down.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 4:51:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nickcarraway

They would be replaced by young college age adults entering the job market. Either that isn’t happening, or it is and the employment rate is dropping anyway.


8 posted on 04/03/2013 4:55:56 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: nickcarraway

Don’t think so. Many boomers who would have retired are still working to pay of the mortgage, second mortgage, student loans, children’s student loans, car loans, vacation loans, etc. 90% of the people of retirement age still require the large salaries to make it payday to payday, let alone retire. Many people are now saying that the market has made back the losses of 2009, but if you exclude the stocks for companies that went bankrupt (GM, Chrysler, etc.) that had no value and take out the replacement stocks, the DOW is still in losing territory. When people lost all their money invested in GM, Chrysler, etc. type stocks it was a physical loss that was not made up.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 5:03:55 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Leveling the playing field for a Progressive is dragging everyone down to their level.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
They would be replaced by young college age adults entering the job market.

Only if there were an equal number of baby boomers and young people. Didn't you know the birth rate has dropped sharply? There are fewer and fewer young people.

10 posted on 04/03/2013 5:04:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Kartographer

Ping!


11 posted on 04/03/2013 5:17:37 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s part of why both parties are panting over all those Mexicans crawling over the border, because they think the influx of illegals (if legalized and taxed) will somehow keep the entitlement Ponzi schemes afloat for a while longer.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 5:26:42 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, birth rates have dropped from the levels of the baby boom years of 1946-1964. However, those who are retired are not counted as “in the workforce”, but the participation rate is dropping anyway.


13 posted on 04/03/2013 5:54:53 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: nickcarraway
There are fewer and fewer young people.

And more and more liberals (communists and socialists) among them.

14 posted on 04/03/2013 6:19:58 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

See... McDonald’s asking for degree to be cashier (an no I am not kidding...)


15 posted on 04/03/2013 6:59:33 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: OneWingedShark

They loosening mortgage rules again. Asked and answered.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 8:16:11 PM PDT by mykroar (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.-Thomas Paine)
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To: Kartographer

We need to reverse off-shoring.

We have sent millions of jobs to China.

What did we expect to happen?


17 posted on 04/03/2013 8:18:04 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: nickcarraway
Here's more, from Bloomberg, on the participation rate:

"The share of the working-age population in the labor force, known as the labor force participation rate, fell to 63.3 percent, the lowest since May 1979."

18 posted on 04/07/2013 12:05:48 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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