Posted on 03/26/2013 4:32:16 PM PDT by DeprogramLiberalism
I think I lay the blame at the feet of both the ideology itself and the leaders of that ideology.
I think paranoia is a misdiagnosis. I have found most liberals are elitist and though they may not be on top of the elitist pyramid, they are way above the masses at the bottom. They see control as necessary for the good of the masses and by virtue of their superiority they, or people they approve, should be the ones exercising control. The masses are on about the level of a herd of cattle; stupid and aimless.
Here is the key point; life is an accident and by strictly by accident they were made superior to most people and have an obligation to control the less fortunate people. It is nice, tidy and unassailable as long as there is no God.
Rules for Radicals
By the way, GREAT profile page. I’ve also pulled up your http://deprogrammingliberalism.com/#Nuclear page.
I will be studying this.
Thank you!
You are quite welcome. Thanks for the compliment.
> Thanks for the compliment.
Merely recognition.
:)
And I don’t think you’re bombastic. Confidence in what you believe is a GOOD trait. Especially when what you believe is right. :)
Now you are embarrassing me. ;-)
Most of these liberals I know also consider themselves Christians, and perhaps that is where we see such a great difference between them and secular liberals, of whom I know very few. But paranoid, living in fear - no way. Confused about the tenets of their religion and why Christianity is conservative - most definitely. So where does control fit in? You can't create paradise unless you control everything that might spoil paradise.
If we were talking about Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler et al., paranoid without any doubt. It seems to me we are not talking about the same thing. I will spend much more time examining your website and thanks again for the link.
Of course, liberals do not think they are paranoid and don’t overtly act fearful in the way a person fears a spider. It is an ideological fear. But there is much too much to explain here. I am glad you are willing to read more at my website. I suggest you read at least the first and second essays. You will understand the role of parnoia much better.
Actually, the paranoia theory is not new. It dates back to the early 1960s to a historian who studied historical ideological groups in America. His essay on it is quite famous in his realm of study. I explore it in essays #2 and #5.
I’ve always thought of liberals as seeing people in social levels, and who ever is the alpha male/female on that level will dominate the thought pattern of that group. Liberals will look down on people they think are beneath their level and worship those above them.
The only way to reach a liberal is to appear to be on a level above them.
My experience is that one on one it hinges on what you can subtly get liberals to reveal about them self to them self. I find that the best way to this is through leading questions whose answers you already know how to respond to. Always let the liberal think they are leading the conversation. Let them think they are the smart and informed one you are the one looking for answers. Once you have them in this position, with the appropriate questions you can lead them right where you want them to go, all the while they think they led conversation there.
They have a moral compass. It points south.
Or down. ;-)
My liberal friend is a fire protection engineer, just as I am and we tend to see risk differently than other people. But his liberalism is rooted in a statement he made: “government should take care of ITS people.” He sincerely believes that and if we give government control, it will take care of its people. Your compilation of “some evil monsters” is a good list and a few of those would appear on his list, but not as evil. He thinks those on his list are just backwards, unenlightened and an obstacle to real progress. He doesn't fear them, he just doesn't like them or doesn't agree with them.
But note the use of the possessive pronoun in my friend's statement of philosophy. That is the Achilles heal of his liberal philosophy and in conflict with his Christianity. He was "red" when I first met him and now he is "pink", so I am making some progress but it sure is slow and with occasional relapses.
I'm have not finished reading your essays but I will try to get to them all over the next several evenings.
I mean it rhetorically, for the most part. (That is just a small list - I have literally hundreds of examples of "monsters" throughout the essays.) The idea is that liberals see the things on that list as opposed to utopia. And they fear anything that may halt utopia and stop all of the bad things happening in society. The issue is whether a person wants to direct their own life and let others direct their own lives with the attendant risks that involves, or does a person want the government to make everything safe for everyone (utopia), even if that means taking away everyone's individual liberty.
He was "red" when I first met him and now he is "pink", so I am making some progress but it sure is slow and with occasional relapses.
Glad to hear it. Hope my essays can help you.
I'm have not finished reading your essays but I will try to get to them all over the next several evenings.
Don't bother rushing. There are over 1,000 300-word pages plus hundreds of source links. My advice is to begin with essay #1 and read them in order. However, if something in an essay down the line catches your fancy read it right away to satisfy your interest. Have fun. :-)
I have started reading your articles, thanks for posting.
Thank you - and you’re welcome.
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Interesting diagnosis “liberalism” of progressives is fear.. sometimes paranoia..
I think your WRONG!.... because of over simplification..
Sometimes they fear sometimes not.. (as we all do)..
The progressives are lazy, intellectually lazy..
They have accepted easy answers by and large to most things..
Thats why good ideas do not effect them..
They do not want to think so they let others do their thinking for them..
but they are careful to make sure the thoughts are not too deep.. taking effort..
They are LAZY you see.. not just kind of lazy but bone lazy...
Easy answers, easy solutions, easy effort.. simplistic mechanics..
They are willing for hard work to happen but just not by them..
Thats why they are for high taxes for YOU.. they can connive there way out of paying them..
If they are afraid of anything its fear of WORK..
They are smart enough to get YOU to do their work.. (they think)..
Take Congress as an example.. Obama couldn’t spend a dime were it not for Boehner financing him..
Obama is the poster boy for laziness.. a Grasshopper..
And Boehner and the republicans are the Ants.. (metaphorically)..
It appears the ants are afraid of the grasshopper but the real problem is laziness.. NOT fear..
Coddled, enabled laziness.. by the ((( ANTS )))....
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