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Colo. prisons chief shot and killed at home
CBS News ^ | 03/20/13

Posted on 03/20/2013 5:39:56 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

The head of the Colorado Department of Corrections has been shot and killed at his home, and authorities say the gunman is on the loose.

Sheriff's Lt. Jeff Kramer says Tom Clements was shot to death around 8:30 p.m. Tuesday night when he answered his front door in Monument, north of Colorado Springs. Police are searching for the shooter.

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TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: clements; colorado; saudi; saudiarabia; tomclements
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1 posted on 03/20/2013 5:39:56 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Good thing the official didn’t have a high capacity magazine!


2 posted on 03/20/2013 5:43:04 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Another left-wing fruitcake going off the deep end?

Just asking.

(or, maybe the Progressives set up a scenario in which someone who lawfully ownded firearms is the shooter.)

Conjecturing with the tinfoil hat.

IMHO


3 posted on 03/20/2013 5:46:12 AM PDT by ripley
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To: AtlasStalled

I’m no Colombo but I’ll bet the trail goes back to Missouri. An angry ex con reads about the move to Colorado, watches for real estate transactions, finds an address and pays a visit.


4 posted on 03/20/2013 5:46:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: AtlasStalled

NEVER answer the door without knowing who’s there!

Use a window.
Use a peep hole.
Use a security camera.

Especially if you’re not expecting visitors!


5 posted on 03/20/2013 5:49:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: muir_redwoods

That is impossible. Criminals are not allowed to own firearms...


6 posted on 03/20/2013 5:49:58 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: AtlasStalled

Illegal alien just released by ICE?


7 posted on 03/20/2013 5:54:21 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: G Larry
Especially if you’re not expecting visitors!

Especially if you're the head screw of thousands of incarcerated lowlifes.

8 posted on 03/20/2013 6:21:38 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: AtlasStalled
Prayers for this officer and his family. No prayers for the perp. Guess my heart is growing hard toward these perps.
9 posted on 03/20/2013 6:46:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: G Larry

This happened in Oregon about 15 years ago outside the DOC Hdq on the street. Commissioner on his way to his car.

IIRC some departments like CA have bodyguards for the commissioner/director. Don’t know what the procedure would be if someone came up to the house. Who answers the door, etc.

I can tell you even with a bodyguard most of them are at very many public events and vulnerable;e to someone, especially if they don’t care about getting caught.

Not exaclty the pres and the USSS.


10 posted on 03/20/2013 6:50:24 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: AtlasStalled

Private prisons are a billion-dollar industry in this country, and innocent people are routinely railroaded. Usually low-income blacks who can’t afford real lawyers. Once in the system, they are used as slave labor in prison factories. They produce furniture, clothing and other items that are sold commercially and make people like Tom Clements very rich. Perhaps somebody who went to prison as an innocent victim of railroading came out as a bitter, hardened criminal and decided to exact revenge. I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it is quite possible.


11 posted on 03/20/2013 6:52:09 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I was recently doing a routine search for addresses on the county property viewer, for a zoning case.

One property, where I knew a cop lived, did not list an owner, owner mailing address, deed, or anything. It occurred to me that cops must be wiped off of the county database...and then it occurred to me that this may have actually been a problem in the past, and a disgruntled arrestee had looked up a cop’s house.


12 posted on 03/20/2013 7:00:34 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: AtlasStalled

another link .. first five paragraphs and everything leads to paragraph four ... the agenda dance has begun for the press though in paragraph two is stated Mr. Clements died from a single gunshot ... http://news.yahoo.com/top-colorado-official-shot-dead-night-gun-law-125817054.html;_ylt=Ao1RSUvOwBzspB.1LkDMgOgJVux_;_ylu=X3oDMTIxYThwdTE0BG1pdANBVFQgSG9tZSBXaWRnZXRyb24gVGVzdCAxBHBvcwM2BHNlYwNNZWRpYUF0dFdpZGdldHJvbkFzc2VtYmx5;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3


13 posted on 03/20/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: lacrew

That’s because they are “public servants” which means their very existence is secret. As opposed to we “private citizens” who are monitored at every intersection and can be demanded to show papers at will by any of the public servants.

War is peace, black is white, slavery is freedom.

The pretenses are starting to wear thin.


14 posted on 03/20/2013 7:04:21 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Well, well. Colorado will just have to ban single-shot firearms now.


15 posted on 03/20/2013 7:05:23 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Obadiah

How could he have been so careless as not to have had his neighborhood declared a gun free zone? If whoever shot him had not owned a gun he would still be alive. He should have fired his double barreled shotgun through the door. People don’t need assault rifles, they need double barreled shotguns. Get a shotgun, get a shotgun. He should have had a pair of scissors in his hand or he should have disarmed the shooter when he ran out of bullets.

How am I doin’ so far?

On a serious note, I am surprised that someone who has been in law enforcement that long and was apparently very competent would answer a door that easily, is it possible he was shot by someone he knew?


16 posted on 03/20/2013 7:06:19 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: muir_redwoods

My thoughts are leaning more towards an associate that got stepped on and didn’t get the promotion he thought he deserved.


17 posted on 03/20/2013 7:07:53 AM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: jespasinthru
I'm not saying that's what happened

Just curious FRiend ... why type it if what is typed is not what one is thinking?

18 posted on 03/20/2013 7:13:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: eastforker

Maybe but my experience is that government employees will never do anything to endanger their pension. If the assailant was a career climber, he wouldn’t have been in the public sector, IMHO.


19 posted on 03/20/2013 7:18:59 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: lacrew

Most states allow the police to keep addresses private. Comes up a lot at DMV data basis.

In the early nineties, the Mexican Mafia got a DMV employee in Sacramento to go into the main date basis and get cops info. Something not available to others.

In this day and age don’t know how they protect from hackers.

In CA, cops are allowed to carry concealed off duty, CHP and corrections and others the same. As long as their certification is up-to-date with employer.

Retirees can re-certify every 90 days and conceal carry.

Don’t know about other states.

In the Oregon case, where you’r walking to the car and someone comes up the street behind you, don’t know how you can be vigilant enough to stop every attempt, even if armed.

BTW the MM also had an ATTORNEY at the CA DOJ providing them info.


20 posted on 03/20/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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