[DeprogramLiberalism]

If you can think of any additional comparisons I'd consider adding them.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I disagree. There are three kinds of Americans. I would say 'people' but I do not care for anyone who lives outside of the USA.

1. Sheep
2. Wolves
3. Sheep Dogs

I consider myself a sheep dog. I can easily identify sheep. I can, with some additional input, identify wolves. I will dispatch the wolves as best I can to protect the sheep. For the sheep will not deign to or will not be able to protect themselves. The wolves, obviously, prey on the sheep.

[babygene]

When people talk about Freedom, I always ask “freedom from what?”. The answer of course always comes down to authority - ie, government. For young people of course it may be their parents, but even that is government mandated authority.

[TEXOKIE]

I have not read carefully your above post, DeprogramLiberalism, but went to the link and skimmed through your home page.

Definite bump for later. And pinging some FRiends to alert them to what I believe could be a valuable contribution.

I think you have presented some ideas and approaches which give substantial food for thought. Thanks for the post.

[cripplecreek]

I've been watching "The men who built America" on the History channel and I've reached a couple of conclusions.

Men like JP Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, etc were all brutal often unethical men who crushed anyone who stood in their way. At the same time, I understand that the world needs men like that because they get things done that wouldn't get done otherwise. Its also important to note that every one of those men turned around and dumped huge amounts of money into schools, hospitals, and parks etc.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

-CS Lewis

[vigilante2]

That's enough to make a liberals head explode..