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To: searching123

BTW, has nothing to do with what anybody thinks of Reagan

All I’m saying as they were mocked not worth listening to -like the TEA Party today- and 75% of the predictions came true already, that’s all


44 posted on 01/31/2013 9:29:10 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

I disagree with your observation. The JBS position regarding Reagan is very significant because it illustrates how extreme the JBS is. Most Tea Party movement members appear to admire and respect Reagan.

There is no possible way you could claim that “75%” of JBS predictions have already come true. First of all, do you honestly expect us to believe that you have read every publication ever published by the JBS which contained a “prediction” — so that you know the exact percentage of correct vs. incorrect “predictions”?

Then, there is the matter of what verifiable factual evidence you are using as “proof” for your assertion.

More importantly, has the JBS EVER acknowledged substantive error about ANYTHING? Has it ever retracted some derogatory or libelous assertion it made about any person or organization? ANSWER: NO!!!

Let me give you one clear-cut example (aside from the Gertz lawsuit previously mentioned) which illustrates how disingenuous JBS arguments are — which is why NOBODY could ever claim “75%” accuracy for the JBS!

This example illustrates how Robert Welch and the JBS use language in such a very sloppy and imprecise manner that it becomes possible for them to arrive at ANY conclusion they want readers to accept-—even mutually contradictory ones....as will be demonstrated below.

In “The Politician” Robert Welch explicitly states (page 109):

“Now it is perfectly all right for a man to be a Democrat, even an A.D.A. [Americans For Democratic Action] Democrat, if that school of political philosophy expresses his own honest beliefs.”

BUT just 10 pages later, Welch states that the objective of the ADA and a similar Republican group called Republican Advance was “the gradual communization of the United States to make easier its absorption into a world-wide Communist empire ruled from the Kremlin.”

And, then, about 4 months later, during his 12/58 lecture in Indianapolis to the 11 men whom Welch asked to support him with creating the John Birch Society -— as reported in the JBS Blue Book, page 117, Welch declared:

“But the ADA, whether a lot of its members know it or not, is the same as an arm of the Communist Party. Its weight can be thrown, and is thrown, time after time, with never an exception, in support of Communist objectives.”

SO WHICH ROBERT WELCH SHOULD WE BELIEVE?

(1) Is it “perfectly all right” to be an “ADA Democrat”?

OR

(2) Is the ADA a subversive group whose objectives amount to treason and whose agenda “is the same as an arm of the Communist Party” because it seeks to facilitate “the gradual communization of the United States to make easier its absorption into a world-wide Communist empire ruled from the Kremlin.” ??

If the JBS mentality was operative within our Justice Department, what would happen to ADA leaders and ADA members?

What would happen to ANY American whom the JBS has previously described as a “Communist”, or as a “Comsymp” or as “an agent” of the Communist Party?

Obviously, Welch’s definition of “Communist” was so elastic, that it could be (and was) applied to anything and anybody he or the JBS did not like!


54 posted on 01/31/2013 11:07:36 AM PST by searching123 (BirchSociety, CleonSkousen, GlennBeck, FBI)
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