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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

The fact that the State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that Obama was born there is sufficient for me. The full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution states that that is sufficient proof. I would have to believe in an unbelievable amount of fraud and cover-up to believe that Hawaii is lying. I know that lots of folks believe that there’s a grand conspiracy here. I don’t. There are a lot of conservatives who share my belief that Obama was born in Hawaii. It’s not strictly a liberal belief!

As far as Arpaio, I think he has his own agenda. If he truly had evidence, then why hasn’t it gone anywhere?


108 posted on 01/27/2013 9:58:06 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

The full faith and credit clause states that there must be a way of verifying documents and so far, Hawaii has NOT legally verified any alleged birth certificate for Obama NOR have they ever LEGALLY verified he was born in Hawaii. Under Federal Rules of Evidence (one way of satisfying the full faith and credit clause), if someone claims to a fact through a certified document (such as a birth record) then those who challenge it in court have a right to inspect that record. Consider the refusal by Hawaii and Obama to submit an official copy of that record in ANY court of law to be quite telling of what the record does not and cannot prove.


111 posted on 01/27/2013 11:05:13 PM PST by edge919
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To: ConstantSkeptic

The fact that the State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that Obama was born there is sufficient for me. The full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution states that that is sufficient proof. I would have to believe in an unbelievable amount of fraud and cover-up to believe that Hawaii is lying.
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Substitute “global warming” for the subject matter and “scientists/universities/gov’t” for Hawaii see if what you said makes any sense.. it’s not like this is anything new.


113 posted on 01/28/2013 3:53:22 AM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Au contraire. The Hawaii state registrar has actually indirectly confirmed in a legal document that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid and has confirmed in 2 legal documents that the White House image is a forgery.

Which is probably why somebody at the HDOH has deliberately added names from non-valid BC’s onto their 1960-64 birth index - as I’ve proven on my blog by showing that Norman and Nathan Asing are the birth names of adoptees and thus those names are on non-valid records.

In addition, we’ve got 4 1961 BC#’s that the HDOH has put on copies they’ve issued.... that could not have been on those particular BC’s in 1961. IOW, the HDOH has switched around at least 4 Aug 1961 BC#’s, including Obama, Stig Waidelich, Virginia Sunahara, and Johanna Ah Nee. The 2 long-forms have blatant signs of forgery on them - apparently from a resistant HDOH worker or possibly Onaka himself (Obama’s BC has TXE in the certifying statement and a smiley face in Onaka’s signature, and Ah Nee’s BC has 2 BC# digits overlapping and a signature that doesn’t look like Onaka’s handwriting). Sunahara’s BC# was found on a death certificate that had 3 blatant signs of forgery on the same line as the BC# was handwritten on: T. H. for Territory of Hawaii on a death certificate from the State of Hawaii, and mismatched and misaligned fonts for FILE and NO. right next to T. H. ) Virginia Sunahara was born on Aug 4, 1961 and died one day later, and the HDOH is refusing to let her brother see her original birth certificate, claiming that the records are “too fragile” to survive if anybody was allowed to see them. Never mind that the paper records have been microfilmed and scanned so that the paper records don’t have to come into play at all.

The only lawful reason for any one of those people to have a BC# different than the one they were given in 1961 is if law enforcement requested a new BC to be fabricated in order to protect the registrant from imminent harm, in which case a BC is made up which says whatever law enforcement says it should say, and a different BC# is given to the fictitious BC so that the real BC remains in effect and available to somebody who knows what is claimed on it. IOW, Eric Holder or Janet Napolitano probably told the HDOH worker what they had to put on a fabricated BC for Obama. It has no resemblance to what is on the real record for Obama, if there even is one.


114 posted on 01/28/2013 4:44:25 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ConstantSkeptic
As far as Arpaio, I think he has his own agenda.

Well, it's obvious what yours is.

137 posted on 01/28/2013 1:09:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ConstantSkeptic
As far as Arpaio, I think he has his own agenda. If he truly had evidence, then why hasn’t it gone anywhere?

Hey n00bie, there were hundreds of leftist SRM moles that went to Alaska in 2008 trying to dig up dirt on Gov Palin, but we STILL don't have a clue of where 0 bummer was born, his college records, his personal background, - on and on. You can post anything you want, but if it is not real, I don't care.

I have a birth certificate that has my footprint and my mother's thumb print from ST Johns Hospital in Taylor Texas. I don't think 0 bummer could ever produce one close to that if forced to do so and that really bothers me.

156 posted on 01/29/2013 12:19:50 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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