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NCAA investigation of Miami destroys credibility and legality of Penn State sanctions.
Tom in Paine ^ | January 24, 2013 | Marc Rubin

Posted on 01/24/2013 10:41:50 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA has put out a statement regarding the investigation into the Miami Hurricanes that the NCAA has " found a very severe case of improper conduct" committed by NCAA investigators during their investigation of the Miami Hurricane football program.

The "severe case of improper conduct", according to NCAA president Mark Emmert, was that the NCAA "improperly obtained information through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA".

This admission and clear hypocrisy by Mark Emmert, all but assures that the law suit filed by the state of Pennsylvania against the NCAA seeking to dismiss the sanctions the NCAA imposed on Penn State in the wake of the criminal activity of Jerry Sandusky will almost certainly succeed.

It is ironic that Emmert considers information obtained through a proceeding that did not involve the NCAA "a severe case of improper conduct" by its investigators and yet every sanction against Penn State was leveled as a result of the corrupt Freeh Report, a proceeding, to quote Emmert, " that did not involve the NCAA".

That all the sanctions against Penn State were based solely on the Freeh Report, a report that has already been discredited and demolished by people with actual investigative and legal knowledge along with evidence of rank dishonesty,intimidation, misrepresentation, subterfuge and smear tactics including by witnesses who were interviewed by Freeh that were more pervasive than anything seen in a major investigation outside of the smearing of the innocent Richard Jewell as the Olympic Bomber in 1996, a smear campaign also orchestrated by then FBI director Louis Freeh, completely invalidates the NCAA sanctions against Penn State even on its own terms.

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1 posted on 01/24/2013 10:42:00 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

So i googled Freeh report and discredited. Then Freeh report and Paterno. The first search turned up a few different pieces from ...wait for it... Thomas Paine blog!
Under the other search i see articles detailing what was found but nothing about it being discredited.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 10:52:54 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Another monomaniacal fanatic trying to rehabilitate the reputation of the late, unlamented Joe "Rhythmic Slapping" Paterno.

Give it a rest. Penn State, as an institution, is culpable.

3 posted on 01/24/2013 11:00:13 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wiggen
The Freeh report has been thoroughly demolished. If you can't find any hits it's because you haven't looked.

All you need to know about Louis Freeh is this: he was the FBI fixer for Janet Reno's corrupt DOJ. His sole talent was in finding out (or covering up) exactly what he was told to do, all while making public protestations about being "pressured" so he could claim a fig leaf of objectivity.

The PSU Board of Trustees is now despised by Penn State alumni, and they needed someone to justify their firing Paterno on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. Enter Freeh. He did exactly what he was hired to do: smear Paterno. If you actually read the Freeh report yourself, you will discover that Paterno got sucked into the cover-up on the basis of oblique references in exactly TWO of literally millions of emails. Neither of those emails originated to, nor was from, Joe Paterno; neither of those two emails makes anything but the most oblique -- and innocuous -- references to a "coach" who may be Paterno, but is far more likely to be Sandusky himself.

4 posted on 01/24/2013 11:06:52 AM PST by FredZarguna ("The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry the Sixth Part II, 4.2.71-78)
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To: Uncle Chip

The usual idiot lynch mob arriving in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...


5 posted on 01/24/2013 11:07:49 AM PST by FredZarguna ("The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry the Sixth Part II, 4.2.71-78)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

This is like some accomplice to child sexual abuse trying to wiggle out of his sentence by some trial technicality. What? Are we suppose to think of Pedd State by any other name now?


6 posted on 01/24/2013 11:14:29 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: FredZarguna; wiggen; All
If you actually read the Freeh report yourself, you will discover that Paterno got sucked into the cover-up on the basis of oblique references in exactly TWO of literally millions of emails. Neither of those emails originated to, nor was from, Joe Paterno; neither of those two emails makes anything but the most oblique -- and innocuous -- references to a "coach" who may be Paterno, but is far more likely to be Sandusky himself.

McQueery, the then grad student who witnessed Sandusky sexually abusing a kid in the Penn State shower, met with Paterno the day after what he saw and told him such. And you're now dismissing that?

Paterno then rewarded McQueery from pushing the matter any further with...years later...becoming a wide receivers coach...and then beyond that...head of Penn State football recruiting.

7 posted on 01/24/2013 11:20:44 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: FredZarguna

You may have read that i had looked. You may even upon reflection realize that rather than show me where it was discredited you launched into an attack on Freeh’s past.
So perhaps that’s, “all you need to know”, to quote you, but not I.
If you wish to give a pass to people that enabled a pedophile have at it but don’t ask me to as well. Its documented that Paterno was told, did nothing and never followed up on it and was well aware that his old player was still running around the campus.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 11:31:09 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Colofornian

You are gravely mistaken:

You do know that McQueary has changed his story about a half dozen times, don’t you???

And in none of those multiple recollections does he say that he saw child molestation.

And the jury acquitted Sandusky of the charge as related to that incident saying that they found no evidence of molestation.

And it wasn’t until 2 years after that incident that McQueary was given a paid position at Penn State.

And Sandusky quit working for Penn State back in 1998/1999.

Get your facts straight before accusing someone of a crime.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 11:41:00 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Penn State agreed to the sanctions. It’s going to be difficult to argue your way around that.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 11:42:15 AM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: Tallguy

I think their argument will be that it was extortion. They were given a choice — accept the sanctions or the death penalty. And now with this their argument has more weight.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 11:51:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Membership in the NCAA is voluntary. When they joined, they agreed to follow all of the rules and decisions of the NCAA. All of the stuff about Freeh and how this was all a setup is irrelevant. They agreed to this when they joined the NCAA, and they also agreed to the sanctions.

If Penn State doesn’t like it, they can withdraw from the NCAA and form their own athletic organization.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 11:58:51 AM PST by Velvet_Jones
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To: Uncle Chip

I’d like to see how he changed his story a dozen times.
Oh and here’s some actual testimony.
“Absent seeing a penis, yes, I think they were having sex,” McQueary said.

McQueary appeared to be a boon to the prosecution, but he made sure to mix in his own defense.

Was he clear with Penn State head coach Joe Paterno, with whom he met the morning after the incident at Paterno’s home?

“I made sure he knew it was sexual and it was wrong,” McQueary said. “I did not go into gross detail of the act … I didn’t feel comfortable using (certain) terms. I didn’t explain those details or use those terms when talking to (Paterno) out of respect and out of my own embarrassment, quite frankly.”


13 posted on 01/24/2013 12:00:34 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Velvet_Jones
When they joined, they agreed to follow all of the rules and decisions of the NCAA.

As long as the NCAA followed its own rules which it hasn't.

14 posted on 01/24/2013 12:03:19 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: wiggen

You do know that the jury acquitted Sandusky of the charge for that 2002 incident reported by McQueary that all the Paterno-haters want to hang around his neck, don’t you???

He was acquitted —

They found that McQueary was not credible at worst and at best that what he witnessed was not child molestation.

The jury had both him and his Grand Jury testimony and in neither did they find that he witnessed a sexual act.

You should let that sink in.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 12:13:49 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

There aren’t any rules that they have to follow in this case. Because the NCAA is a voluntary organization, they can take whatever actions against their members they feel are justified in dealing with issues they feel may hurt the overall organization.

Penn State agreed to this when they joined the NCAA. No one forced them to join, and part of the agreement when they joined was to accept the rulings of the NCAA.

If they somehow manage to win this silly lawsuit, it won’t help them. All that ca happen is that they get subjected to the death penalty, or they get asked to leave the NCAA. Neither one of which benefits Penn State.

All the other stuff you bring up is irrelevant. Accept the punishment, or leave the NCAA.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 12:22:18 PM PST by Velvet_Jones
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To: wiggen
It did not document any such thing.

Sandusky was not Paterno's "old player."

Paterno could not stop his former coach from "running around campus." That was in Sandusky's contract and could only have been done by the PSU administration.

17 posted on 01/24/2013 12:24:20 PM PST by FredZarguna ("The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry the Sixth Part II, 4.2.71-78)
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To: Colofornian
And you're now dismissing that?

I'm not dismissing it, because a) McQuery has made numerous public and sworn statements that are contradictory. To which one do yo refer? and because b) McQuery never claims to have told Paterno any such thing. According to his sworn testimony, he told Paterno he "believed" he saw something "that was sexual in nature."

I want you now to come down off your high horse, if you can jump down that far, and put yourself in the position of a boss who is told by an employee that he "believes" he witnessed a crime in the workplace. You tell the employee to tell the police. What other responsibility do you think you, as a receiver of hearsay evidence, have?

18 posted on 01/24/2013 12:31:13 PM PST by FredZarguna ("The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry the Sixth Part II, 4.2.71-78)
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To: Velvet_Jones
There aren’t any rules that they have to follow in this case. Because the NCAA is a voluntary organization

Baloney -- So is Sams Club but it still has to follow its own rules that make it an organization otherwise its members can sue to compel them to do so.

Accept the punishment, or leave the NCAA.

Ahhh -- spoken like a true totalitarian afraid to have his decision-making scrutinized.

19 posted on 01/24/2013 12:34:14 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: wiggen
You may have read that i had looked

I read that you said that you looked. I believe that claim is a lie.

Google: "Freeh report errors." There are 161,000 results, none on the first several pages are from this blog.

20 posted on 01/24/2013 12:37:54 PM PST by FredZarguna ("The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry the Sixth Part II, 4.2.71-78)
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