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To: rdcbn
Re: “Where did this bull s**t number of 11 million illegal aliens in the number come from?”

The 11-12 million number comes from the U.S. Census Bureau and from Pew Research (a center-left think tank, but well respected for good data).

CIS, Numbers USA, and FAIR - which are the three top Conservative immigration think tanks - all use that number.

No doubt there are flaws in that number, but the consensus seems to be that it is the best one available.

22 posted on 01/20/2013 4:56:18 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
CIS, Numbers USA, and FAIR - which are the three top Conservative immigration think tanks - all use that number.

No doubt there are flaws in that number, but the consensus seems to be that it is the best one available.


The 11 million number is total BS.

I can buy into the 12 million number in the 1990’s . If you look at the massive increase in illegal’s presence in our country since then not credible.

The Border Patrol caught and turned away about 750,000 people per year in the 70 mile wide Nogales sector of the border alone. The estimated that they intercepted 1 in 5 border crossers.

That implies about 2 million made it across per year in the Nogales sector alone.

Multiply that by 15 years and see what you get.

The total is more like 30-45 million which is consistent with the increased nationwide presence we have seen in the last 10-15 years.

This 11 million people number more of a low ball propaganda number that is large enough for action to be taken but small enough so it does not allow current US Citizens to realize that they will be politically swamped by illiterate illegals who have third world voting habits and no stake in our country.. .

Once illegals have the right legal right to vote themselves benefits and entitlements.

This is exactly what has happened in Southern California.

Illegals completely dominate political culture in So Cal because they are a huge fraction of the population. These Third World transplants have allowed Democrats to bring Third World type populist “give me” politics to the state and they are killing the state economy.

It's a big part of the reason California is so screwed up.

26 posted on 01/20/2013 5:28:33 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: zeestephen

CIS, Numbers USA, and FAIR - which are the three top Conservative immigration think tanks - all use that number.
No doubt there are flaws in that number, but the consensus seems to be that it is the best one available.


Additionally, the census numbers of population decline in Mexico also support the number of 16-20 million Mexicans moving to El Norte illegally.

Similar demographics in South and Central America support another 10 million of their collective populations moving to the US illegally.

SO figure 12 million here in 1996 plus 16-20 million Mexicans plus another 10 million Non Mexican South and Central Americans and you get an easy 30 - 40 million illegals in the US.

This is consistent with what we see in our new Press 1 for Spanish, Press 2 for English culture in the US.


37 posted on 01/20/2013 8:47:47 PM PST by rdcbn
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