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To: palmer

The only lawful reason for Onaka to refuse to verify ANY of the items requested is if he lawfully can’t, because he can’t certify that that’s how the event really happened. He would not verify ANY item from the actual request form = a form which cannot be interpreted as anything but a request for verification of the TRUTH of the facts submitted for verification.

That tells us everything we need to know. He would not verify anything as being the way the event actually happened. That’s not my theory. That’s what the law says. He SHALL PROVIDE verification of the existence of the record AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION SUBMITTED FOR VERIFICATION.

Everything else could be interpreted as a request for verification that those claims are merely on the birth record at the HDOH. Which legally means nothing, since the record they have is legally worthless.

What evidence do you have that Onaka violated HRS 338-14.3? Because that’s what you’re accusing him of - getting this verification wrong. What is your evidence against him?


42 posted on 01/15/2013 3:44:52 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
What evidence do you have that Onaka violated HRS 338-14.3? Because that's what you're accusing him of - getting this verification wrong. What is your evidence against him?

Just for the record: Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.

(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.

(c)...(d)...(e)...(deleted)

What Onaka did was verify the existence of the certificate and the substance of the certificate (birth date, subject, etc). He did not verify all of the facts that he was asked to verify. I am not a lawyer so I don't know what you are asking or why you are asking me. Why don't you rephrase your question? In any case he was asked by persons with a legal interest in the record and he gave a partial answer. There's no reason to doubt the facts that he did provide. He did not verify all the requested information. I do not know the legal significance of his failure to verify all the facts.

46 posted on 01/15/2013 6:10:02 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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