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To: ReformationFan

Interesting conundrum for the Christian-centered community of Freepers who happen to be in same-sex relationships and who are otherwise conservative in their political views. Do we drive them away being fellow patriot gun owner/operators, conservative voters; and fellow Texans, or do we ignore and do no harm? There are many of us that worship Jesus Christ and yet ignore the rest of y’all that seem to want to send our gay s to the gas chamber. Get over it. The world isn’t as tidy as you had hoped. Concentrate on defeating the real enemies of freedom. BHO for starters.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 11:23:37 AM PST by CARTOUCHE (Miss me yet?)
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To: CARTOUCHE; ReformationFan

No one on this thread has suggested sending anyone to the gas chambers. The conundrum is not between gay and straight Freepers but between gays and the gospel. It is a profound conundrum, hence this discussion. If all you have to contribute is to tell us to shut up there are better uses for your time.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 11:44:06 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Interesting conundrum for the Christian-centered community of Freepers who happen to be in same-sex relationships and who are otherwise conservative in their political views.

Huh? Christians, conservatives, and confidently, sexually active homosexuals, all in one package, and we have an entire "community" of those at free republic?

Is it possible to have even one of those?

19 posted on 01/11/2013 11:49:44 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: CARTOUCHE

Oh please spare us the moral lecture. No one here at FR is out to get you. But much like the current gun issue the FR credo is live and let live but don’t force your difference with us onto us (ie don’t own a gun but don’t make me give up mine, don’t force me to condone one’s homosexuality).

Tea Partiers are assaulted in the media all the time while all gay is all good at the same time. No one has as much favorable press as homosexuals nowadays much less your ridiculous gas chamber example.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 11:53:22 AM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: CARTOUCHE

“Am I my brother’s keeper?”

Said before and not by you.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 12:07:00 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: CARTOUCHE; All; Jim Robinson
Interesting conundrum for the Christian-centered community of Freepers who happen to be in same-sex relationships and who are otherwise conservative in their political views. Do we drive them away being fellow patriot gun owner/operators, conservative voters; and fellow Texans, or do we ignore and do no harm? There are many of us that worship Jesus Christ and yet ignore the rest of y’all that seem to want to send our gay s to the gas chamber. Get over it. The world isn’t as tidy as you had hoped.

I guess you didn't get the memo that Free Republic stands for God and the traditional family - I believe Jim Robinson has made that abundantly clear.

Your cheap caricature of pro-family conservatives wanting to send gays "to the gas chamber" parrots the extremist rhetoric of the gay and secularist agenda and is an affront to many on this board.

Yeah, for sure there are legions of "Christ-centered" gays who are "just like us" (except for engaging in homosexual anal sex with - statistics reveal - legions of partners). There is little evidence that this imaginary constituency exists anywhere except in your mind.

As for your hollow claim to "worship Jesus," our Lord himself addressed the hypocrites of His day: "Why do you call me Lord and do not do as I say?"

In Matthew 19, in addressing the Pharisees of His day (applicable also to Pharisees on FR), Jesus affirmed the divine plan for marriage: "And He answered and said to them, 'Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?"

As for the insinuation that Jesus has Himself "gotten over" His repressive morality, good luck with that: "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away." As for the contention that the moral law is no longer applicable to us in the "enlightened" modern age: "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

I suspect you are aware of all this, but sadly have chosen instead to side with those who oppose the teachings of Jesus regarding marriage.

As for your back-handed dismissal of pro-family conservatives who, according to you, need to "get over it," I also suspect that few will heed your demand, but will stand fast in affirming teachings of their Lord.

The question rather is whether you will "get over" your double-minded insistence on calling yourself "conservative" while being a mouthpiece for radical, anti-Faith secularism: "Choose this day whom you will serve."

35 posted on 01/11/2013 1:14:40 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: CARTOUCHE

Not a problem. When they push the homo agenda on FR, they get the zot!!


39 posted on 01/11/2013 1:35:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: CARTOUCHE

Wow. Your post certainly attracted the Viking Kitties. Did you mean to do that?

“...or do we ignore and do no harm?”

May I remind you that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke.

Ignore and do no harm? No sir. I - for one - will NOT ignore the harm that gays do.


44 posted on 01/11/2013 2:05:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Concentrate on defeating the real enemies of freedom. BHO for starters.

There is a reason that the homosexual sex practitioners are a community organized group of useful idiots supporting BHO and it has nothing to do with individual freedom or conservatism.

Get a clue -the promotion of homosexual sex normalcy; the homosexual agenda, is an enemy of freedom.

Though you may suggest to politely impose acceptance of homosexual sex as normal among conservatives while the left imposes it by force of government; there is no difference.

Only leftists think they can create a heaven on earth and in doing so create a hell.

48 posted on 01/11/2013 3:05:58 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: CARTOUCHE
There are many of us that worship Jesus Christ and yet ignore the rest of y’all that seem to want to send our gay s to the gas chamber.

Worship of Jesus and defense of sin are contradictory in nature - and homosexual relations are sin (http://www.peacebyjesus.net/homosex_versus_the_bible.pdf) - and liberty without limits is anarchy.

That said, all have sinned, and all do, and compassion is to be shown to the penitent, and love toward even enemies, and there is room at the cross for all who are of a contrite heart and will come to the risen Lord Jesus for salvation by His sinless shed blood.

49 posted on 01/11/2013 3:26:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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