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To: ReformationFan
I had explained, as carefully and graciously as I could, that Jesus upheld and expanded the wider biblical stance on sexuality, that the only context for sexual activity is heterosexual marriage. Following Jesus would mean seeking to live under his word, in this area as in any other.

As "graciously" as you could, when you dared add to the requirements Jesus gave?

Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
- Matthew 22:34-40

Oh, but of course, what Matthew left out of Jesus' words about damning homosexuality, YOUR Bible genius understands should have been included.

In the same way that when Luke quoted Jesus saying sell everything you have and give thee money to the poor, YOUR Bible genius understands He didn't mean YOU.

You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'" And he said, "All these I have observed from my youth." And when Jesus heard it, he said to him, "One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
- Luke 18:20-22

Gay marriage is one thing (which Christians screw up anyway by allowing the State to be the legitimizer of Holy Matrimony instead of the Church). But - teaching homosexuals they are banned from Jesus' love and redemption solely because of their homosexuality is a whole 'nother thing. You RUN where angels fear to tread - literally "damning the fags" while "keeping your money."

Well you might get a lot of chuckles from the good old boys, but Jesus isn't smiling.

And one more thing - do you actually think you can screw with Jesus' teaching without payback?

When you damn people in Jesus' name who Jesus did NOT damn, they turn against you. And while you laugh - they vote. Look at the White House while you're laughing. Look at Obamacare while you're laughing. Kiss your guns goodbye while you're laughing. Did it EVER occur to you that the reason the Left might have so much power in this country is BECAUSE the hypocrisy of Christians have driven them AWAY from the teachings of Jesus that WOULD have reined in their madness and hatred?

What, you think Jesus is so IRRELEVENT that this can't be true?

:: spit ::

But I agree with you on one thing - there WILL be a Judgement Day, and we WILL face Jesus.

And He's going to want to know WHY YOU drove His children AWAY from Him.

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
- Matthew 7:3-5

But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
-Matthew 18:6

40 posted on 01/11/2013 1:36:02 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Right on!! So when homosexuality is pushed on us, let’s keep quiet lest we be called hypocrites or drive people away!!

Homosexuality is a higher degree of grievous sin :

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV) “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

Since you seem to be lecturing us on driving people away should the church stay quiet? That didn’t help in the 60’s and 70’ did it?

Remember now it is the homosexual agenda that is being pushed onto us? Is your solution to not push back? But that would kind of defeat the purpose now wouldn’t it? Don’t speak out against it because then people will be against Christ and people will be mad at us and vote Democrat, but then being homosexual is against Christ is it not?

No thank you I’ll reject your interpretations and keep up the good fight and not stay quiet and not accept homosexuality :

Matthew 10:22 (KJV) :

“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”


42 posted on 01/11/2013 2:01:50 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Talisker

Right on!! So when homosexuality is pushed on us, let’s keep quiet lest we be called hypocrites or drive people away!!

Homosexuality is a higher degree of grievous sin :

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV) “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

Since you seem to be lecturing us on driving people away should the church stay quiet? That didn’t help in the 60’s and 70’ did it?

Remember now it is the homosexual agenda that is being pushed onto us? Is your solution to not push back? But that would kind of defeat the purpose now wouldn’t it? Don’t speak out against it because then people will be against Christ and people will be mad at us and vote Democrat, but then being homosexual is against Christ is it not?

No thank you I’ll reject your interpretations and keep up the good fight and not stay quiet and not accept homosexuality :

Matthew 10:22 (KJV) :

“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”


43 posted on 01/11/2013 2:02:23 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Talisker

“When you damn people in Jesus’ name who Jesus did NOT damn, they turn against you.”

Did you even read the article? The entire point was to treat those struggling with this and all sin that it’s not easy and that all Christians should be supportive in helping those struggling with all sin.

Or did you just see another opportunity to criticize evangelicals under the guise of being the good Christian?


45 posted on 01/11/2013 2:08:05 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Talisker

“Did it EVER occur to you that the reason the Left might have so much power in this country is BECAUSE the hypocrisy of Christians have driven them AWAY from the teachings of Jesus that WOULD have reined in their madness and hatred?”

Or did it ever occur to you that the reason the Left has so much power is because Satan is the ruler of the world and tries to influence everyone as much as possible?

2 Corinthians 4:4 (NIV) :

“The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”


46 posted on 01/11/2013 2:16:17 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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