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China researchers link obesity to bacteria
The New York Daily News ^ | December 20, 2012

Posted on 12/20/2012 4:07:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/20/2012 4:07:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dependinf on your size any conventional diet would do the same thing IMO.


2 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:31 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dependinf on your size any conventional diet would do the same thing IMO.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:31 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Depending on your size any conventional diet would do the same thing IMO.


4 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:31 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Depending on your size any conventional diet would do the same thing IMO.


5 posted on 12/20/2012 4:12:38 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One of the report's authors, Zhao Liping, lost 44 pounds in two years after adopting a diet of fermented probiotic foods such as bitter melon to adjust the balance of bacteria in his gut

An American could probably lose twice that much by eliminating their daily Starbucks.

6 posted on 12/20/2012 4:15:03 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Who in hell can afford Starbucks?


7 posted on 12/20/2012 4:16:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you take in more calories than you burn you gain weight.Burn more than you take in and you lose weight.Take in and burn the same number of calories and you stay the same.It ain’t rocket science.


8 posted on 12/20/2012 4:51:48 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Who in hell can afford Starbucks?"

We're all tightening our belts already! ;-)

9 posted on 12/20/2012 5:03:15 PM PST by Average Al
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. I’ve had gut trouble in the past, after a serious diverticulitis episode, and used to take probiotics to counteract the effects of antibiotics that I was prescribed from time to time to fight infection.

Recently, the past couple of years, I’ve lost a number of pounds and several inches. My doctor is a bit puzzled, as I’m still doing about the same amound of eating and exercising. But one difference is that I’ve been taking probiotics on a regular basis, instead of only occasionally. Possibly that ties in with these findings. Crowd out the malign bacteria with benign ones.

For whatever reason, it’s also been about five years since I last had any recurrence of the diverticulitis problem. Again, that could be the result of a better bacterial balance. I’m pretty much sold on the probiotics.


10 posted on 12/20/2012 5:29:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Enterobacter is a genus of common bacteria, several strains of which are pathogenic. But the obesity connection is an interesting one.

Typically, a healthy person’s flora has between 300-1000 different kinds of just bacteria (along with a vast number of viruses, fungi, and other microorganisms.)

However, of this 300-1000, only 30 or 40 of them take up the vast majority of physical space. These are your “core flora” and are essential to digestion and health. They are very interactive with your immune system.

But here’s the zinger: “In a recent study, over 1/3rd of gut bacteria in a morbidly obese volunteer was found to be enterobacter. After 23 weeks, the volunteer lost almost 1/3 of his weight by virtually eliminating the bacteria via diet, while being prevented from exercising.”

That is, enterobacter bacteria had *displaced* most of the other “good” bacteria. And having this much enterobacter likely caused inflammation that *resulted* in obesity.

The way this happens is because your fat contains clusters of cells called MAST cells. When these cells are irritated, they release histamines and heparin. In turn, these chemicals irritate other MAST cell clusters, but *also* cause the body to retain more fat.

And as you get fatter, along with the fat are created a more than proportionally greater number of MAST cell clusters. So a morbidly obese person’s fat is loaded with them, making it easier to gain weight.

But irritated MAST cell clusters do so much more. They can activate all sorts of autoimmune system diseases, from many forms of arthritis, to Crohn’s disease, to psoriasis, etc.

But how to reduce the proportion of enterobacter in the flora? Both by changing the diet to make the intestinal environment less beneficial to it, and by consuming a lot of other digestive bacteria, to displace the enterobacter.

Healthy digestive bacteria are available OTC and sold in stores.


11 posted on 12/20/2012 5:32:46 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I should add that it takes about a determined month to significantly change the profile of your intestinal flora.


12 posted on 12/20/2012 5:35:12 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Cicero

What kind of probiotics do you use?


13 posted on 12/20/2012 5:48:38 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Would you mind recommending some brands?


14 posted on 12/20/2012 5:54:19 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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I’m not an expert on it, but I’ve had good luck with Vitacost Pro-biotics 15-35. I tried a cheaper kind earlier, with fewer kinds of bacteria in it, but that one seems to work for me.

http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-probiotic-15-35-35-billion-cfu-240-vegetarian-capsules


15 posted on 12/20/2012 6:26:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Chickensoup; yefragetuwrabrumuy

Would you mind recommending some brands?

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I am interested in that answer, as well. Thanks.


16 posted on 12/20/2012 6:29:03 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Chickensoup; Bigg Red

I’ve recently become impressed by a drink called Kefir, which is now available in several brands in some grocery stores. Some of them have 10 or more different probiotic strains, and is much less expensive than probiotic supplements.

Tastes like a flavored (or unflavored) yoghurt smoothie. Some people have taken to making their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir

Importantly, the diet mentioned that the bad bacteria was inhibited by changing the intestinal pH. This is tricky to pull off, so it is probably easier to consume probiotics for at least a month.


17 posted on 12/20/2012 6:52:54 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What is the diet for eliminating the enterobacter bacteria?


18 posted on 12/20/2012 7:56:25 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

any suggestions? I know quite a few people that would love to know

do you have a small list of these foods?


19 posted on 12/20/2012 8:18:34 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“If you take in more calories than you burn you gain weight.Burn more than you take in and you lose weight.Take in and burn the same number of calories and you stay the same.It ain’t rocket science.”

I don’t agree. My family and I are among the lucky ones——no weight problems,but I saw a woman at the beach once with an adolescent son and they were morbidly obese.

It was horrendous the way that they looked and I felt so sorry for them. There is no way they ate their way to that size.

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20 posted on 12/20/2012 8:29:00 PM PST by Mears
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