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Socialized Medicine Doing BLOODY GREAT in the UK: 'Hospitals... Bursting'- 'Danger Level'- 'Deaths'
Reaganite Republican ^ | 03 December 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 12/03/2012 8:55:48 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

Much like the Greek debt crisis offered a glimpse of that fiscal day-of-reckoning 'Obama bucks' America is soon to face, the UK's  ever-ailing National Health Service -a 60-year-old system of socialized medicine known as the NHS- provides Americans a useful preview of all the expensive, unnecessary disasters our own Obamacare will soon be bringing on this side of the pond.

And the prognosis? 

Hope you're sitting down...
The Guardian (UK):

Senior doctors warned that the findings reflected their increasingly frantic efforts to find beds for the growing number of emergency admissions and that repeated breaches of the 85% (capacity) limit meant that patients -esp. the elderly- are being scattered across hospitals. 

A lack of beds in specialist wards results in patients being sent to wards where staff may not know how to look after them properly. Some operations are being cancelled because of this 'overspill'...

The NHS recognizes that occupancy rates >85% make it difficult to give high-quality care, minimize the risk of hospital-acquired infections, and avoid busy staff making mistakes with medication... (yet)  occupancy averaged over 90% for 11/12 months.
Hospitals increasingly declare themselves on 'red alert', which means they have very few beds left- or 'black alert', when they have to shut their doors to new admissions and send patients elsewhere...

Of course, the NHS is also a fiscal black-hole that devours every Pound Sterling that gets anywhere near the Kafka-esque monstrosity...  yet somehow, it's never enough. 

Likewise for Obamacare: White House cost projections were always the stuff of fairy tales... for that reason -unlike many Republicans- I still think ObamaCare is doomed: it's a poorly written rush-job that was never even reconciled, and imo it will be very difficult to implement in anything like it's current form. 

And 'finding out what's in it' isn't going to be anything like the Christmas morning scene Nancy Pelosi painted for us: besides plunging quality of care and death-panels, expect a renewed backlash to develop -particularly by small business owners- over the next year as premiums climb and the taxes really kick-in. Job creation will be obliterated, and Americans are going to turn on this wholly-unneeded nationalization of the US health-care system as reality sets-in. 

PJ O'Rourke once said 'If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free'- indeed.

More specifically, we're talking $2.6 TRILLION and 800,000 jobs lost... this dog won't hunt, people.

Financial Times   NewsReal   NHS   Bushywood   Rick Moran@PJM   Forbes

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: backlash; dhs; nhs; obamacare; obamacarefuture; repeal

1 posted on 12/03/2012 8:55:57 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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2 posted on 12/03/2012 8:56:57 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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” Hospitals increasingly declare themselves on ‘red alert’, which means they have very few beds left-or ‘black alert’, when they have to shut their doors to new admissions and send patients elsewhere...”

A story from Japan a few years ago:

Injured Japanese Man Dies After 14 Hospitals Refuse to Admit Him

A 69-year-old Japanese man injured in a traffic accident died after paramedics spent more than an hour negotiating with 14 hospitals before finding one to admit him, a fire department official said Wednesday.

The man, whose bicycle collided with a motorcycle in the western city of Itami, waited at the scene in an ambulance because the hospitals said they could not accept him, citing a lack of specialists, equipment, beds and staff, according to Mitsuhisa Ikemoto.

It was the latest in a string of recent cases in Japan in which patients were denied treatment, underscoring the country’s health care woes that include a shortage of doctors.

The man, who suffered head and back injuries, initially showed stable vital signs, but his condition gradually deteriorated. He died from hemorrhagic shock about an hour and half after arriving at the hospital, Ikemoto said.

More here:,2933,487747,00.html

3 posted on 12/03/2012 9:49:54 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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I agree, Obamacare is so FUBAR that it is doomed to collapse. We need to be in place to pick up the pieces after the deluge.

4 posted on 12/03/2012 10:14:35 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (
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Will the insurance companies still be around when this happens?

5 posted on 12/03/2012 10:22:16 AM PST by diamond6 (Pray........pray very hard!!)
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