Posted on 12/02/2012 9:15:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Yea - Don’t turn the GOPe into a fringe party. Win the White House in the election to stop Obama from turning the country into a socialist utopia.
Or
Follow the facts and law to reveal the truth, and let the cards fall where they may.
Hmmmm - tough call for some, not me.
(What about following the facts and law to reveal the truth bothers you, why?)
‘Note that having a forged BC doesn’t prove ineligibility...’
IMHO, by presenting a forged bc, obama shows that he either does not have an authentic bc, or he has 1 that has damning evidence that he is not what he pretends to be.
The burden of proof is on obama.
The digital image he presented on the Internet has been proven fraudulent by a law enforcement official.
So unless he shows the authentic hard-copy bc from USA he is NOT eligible to be on the ballot or be the president of the USA. HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR HIS FRAUDULENT BC.
Anywhere we go to present a forged bc to apply for something from the gov, we will be disqualified and PROSECUTED.
BUT OBOZO CAN ASCEND TO THE WH WITH A FORGED BC?
Sorry to say, it will never happen until Zippie is long out of office and perhaps not even then. Our public school system has brain washed the country to march lock step into socialism/communism and zippie is our Joe Stalin.
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Or 4.5 weeks, or 4.5 days.
This is BS. If these folks had anything, other than a misguided sense of importance, they would have announced it the day after they found it.
It might not be ‘a massive assembly of the Tea Party demanding that certain states secede...’, but there is a ‘Massive Anti-obama Rally on Inauguration day’ gathering momentum -
The officials won’t do anything about voter fraud or Benghazi or .....
it is up to us to act to let them know we are not silently consenting to all their traitorous schemes.
Please check it out, spread the words, and if possible, participate.
Won’t matter, remember that Mayan calendar thing comes first.
They did. It is the sheriff’s evidence.
Maybe a Senator is prepared take it on in the electoral certification process.
Every document the guy has produced is now a proved forgery.
A few hundred people now have to publicly swallow it. Some might reasonably refuse.
Answered prayer?
>>> You don’t know anything. If you honestly think anything positive is going to come from this latest farce, you’re taking very powerful drugs and/or you believe little green men from Mars are going to proclaim you dictator of the solar system. Which one is it?
The story here about someone coming forward to expose Obama may very well be a farce... but the FACT that Obama is ineligible to hold his current office is not.
As far as knowing anything goes, you have no choice but to admit that NOBODY knows ANYTHING about this man because he has successfully kept it hidden thus far.
The burden of proof is upon him, not upon us to prove otherwise. The FACT that our elected representatives refuse to enforce the rule of law because of political pressure and fears is precisely why you are about to lose your rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Comments such as yours enable the communists to complete their mission of destroying this country within.
Do you really think that if this situation were reversed that the democrats would leave it alone?
The average Obama-loon and the entire liberal law bar and law academics could care less about Barry having two US citizen parents to be NBC, but most (but not all) believe that you have to be born on US soil to be president.
Yes, there are some who will say that if he has just one US citizen parent mom, he is eligible wherever he was born but they are a small minority.
So I personally only expect eligibility to get legs if new positive evidence of a foreign birth is found. Lack of positive evidence, such as the LFBC forgery, won't cut it, IMO. The state of HI “affirmation” to the AG SOS that something in their files covered Barry before the election.
To cut through that there must be new evidence that the “something” in the HI records could be defective.
Actually, what Onaka legally confirmed to Bennett was that the HI birth record is not legally valid. Onaka would not verify ANY of the birth facts that Bennett submitted on the application form for a letter of verification, even though Onaka did verify that those are the claims that are on the record they have. The only LAWFUL reason for him to not verify those facts is if he can’t, and the only reason he couldn’t verify them if that’s what their record claims.... is if the record itself is not valid.
Bennett’s duty was to keep Obama OFF the ballot because nobody in this country can certify that Obama is eligible. According to HI statute, that HI BC means NOTHING legally unless and until it is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and the probative value is determined. Judicial and administrative persons and bodies are bound to the Federal Rules of Evidence.
IOW, without a court procedure, there is no way that Obama can qualify by Jan 20, 2013 as required by the 20th Amendment. And there is no way he EVER qualified for the last 4 years either.
This is all in the public record now. It is legally established. Every state SOS has been informed of this, by Attorney Larry Klayman. Every state AG has also been informed. Every one of them knows that Obama cannot qualify. If even one of them did the right thing this would blow wide open. At the very least someone with standing would take this to the Supreme Court. Congress is not an administrative or judicial body so nothing it does can resolve the issue of whether Obama qualifies - and the 20th Amendment says that the “president elect” can still fail to qualify by Jan 20th, so Constitutional QUALIFICATIONS for the Presidency fall to the only body left after Congress has certified the electoral winner: the courts.
SCOTUS is badly compromised. We saw that with John Roberts’ ruling on Obamacare. But if the legal facts are made known to the general public through the media and in a court hearing, it would be much, much harder for anybody to pretend that 2008 was anything but a coup by a foreign enemy combatant.
If we reach a point as a country where the facts don’t matter, we are history.
I fear that we are there, but I’m hoping that people are starting to wake up to the nightmare that would ensue if we really and truly followed post-modernism in our legal system as well as in our educational system and media.
The sheriff is perhaps the worst PR speaker in this country.
His brusque, “you cannot question me” tone is horrible. He could have discovered the cure for cancer, but his presentation would doom it to the dustpile.
A lot of Obama haters “want” him to be right, and they like his attitude. To most of us in this country, he seems like the mean old guy that used to hang out at the local bar.
I am sorry, because he is from my home town and I guess he is a decent enough guy. But he cannot deliver this message with any credibility.
That is your personal opinion. This is a legal matter. Only if your legal opinion is affirmed by a judge, state SOS or AG would your opinion become an “actual” legal fact. That has not happened. So far I have not seen even a single lawyer willing to argue in support of your opinion and lawyers will argue any side of any issue if paid enough or motivated for other reasons, but they haven’t embraced your interpretation of what “actually” happened.
What did “actually” happen, IMO (IANAL either) is that Bennett, rightly or wrongly, interpreted the HI “authentication” by Onaka to provide sufficient legal basis to establish a claim to AZ by HI that “legal records” of some kind affirm that Barry was born in HI making Barry eligible as an NBC (under the legal theory that only US soil birth matters) and Bennett honored HI’s claim under the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution.
Not the most mature response ever posted.
“If we reach a point as a country where the facts don’t matter, we are history.” - BDZ
I agree. Unfortunately, there are many (both D and R) in this country who do not think about policies or facts. They vote party line.
There are also many that are invested in keeping the status quo, the duopoly of Democrats and Republicans.
Then there are the fierce Obama supporters. They want to usher in a socialist USA. They know the truth, but will do anything for their utopian cause. They also gravely fear the consequences of breaking ranks.
The true freedom fighters are targeted and left vulnerable by the duopoly. West is the most current victim. Bob Barr and congressman Dornan are a couple of the victims in the recent past. This game is not going well, and either the tea party takes over the GOPe, or it has to run by itself (and win).
Let me repeat: NOTHING!!!!!! will come of all this. Nothing.
If true a Vince Foster event to ensue.
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