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1 posted on 11/26/2012 11:08:16 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

I believe history has shown us that if you’re gonna invade Russia, you’d best be able to make a ‘Summer trip’ of it, or you’re doomed.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 11:36:55 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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The cossacks would not have attacked the French supply lines, as there were no supply lines as commonly understood. Rather, they would have attacked French hussars who were securing French soldiers as they attempted to live off the land. Nappy took a different route back, as the route out was pretty much eaten out.

The popular map showing the size of Nappy’s forces as he marched on Moscow, and retreated, is misleading in several ways. On the way out, Nappy took his time, expecting that after each battle the Russian emperor would seek terms. On the way back, Nappy rushed, and his wounded were abandoned. The Berezina was such an obstacle because the temperature was unseasonably warm. Normally frozen, it was cold, but not frozen.


3 posted on 11/26/2012 11:38:14 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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The real credit goes to Czar Alexander who outwitted Napoleon.

Napoleon wanted to have one or two grand battles on the order of Austerlitz in order to win out over Russia.

Czar Alexander refused a pitched battle, yielding ground, attacking units that strayed away from the main columns, attacking Napoleon's supply lines, all while holding together a fragile coalition of Prussia and, Austrians,Swedes, as well as a very fractious military staff.

When winter set in and Napoleon had to retreat, Alexander's forces harried him all of the way back to Paris.

5 posted on 11/27/2012 2:48:15 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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And to think, Patton wanted to start a war with the USSR after the defeat of nazi Germany.

My dad was in favor of it and almost personally started Patton’s war. Glad he didn’t.


6 posted on 11/27/2012 5:25:49 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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Borodino was a pyrrhic victory for Le Grand Armee; it was so costly there was little cohesion left in Napoleon’s ranks by time they got to Moscow, only to find that crown jewel burned to a shell and the Russians conspicuously absent. His army dissolved in an orgy of looting and plunder until he realized — too late — that his capture of the city did not incite peace with the czar, and that his rabble would be stranded in a burned-out city with a hostile army just leagues away, no provisions, and a Russian winter coming on. In a panic, he tried to organize a retreat but the troops were encumbered first by their ill-gotten loot, then their lack of forage (for them and their livestock), and finally by the cold.

The army that staggered back to Paris was anything but “Grand”.


7 posted on 11/27/2012 5:32:32 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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A good movie on the subject is WAR AND PEACE. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063794/

The Russian version of 1967 (8 hours). Get the uncut version from the RUSSIAN CINEMA COUNCIL on e-bay, not the KULTUR cut version sold by Barnes and Noble.

Then get the Russian version (in English) of WATERLOO. Staring Christopher Plummer and Rod Steiger.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/


8 posted on 11/27/2012 5:34:46 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: cunning_fish

Given the abuses heaped upon the Americans by every bureaucrap from the city level to Obama and Holder, the Guru suggests a reading of the Japanese High Command’s perspective on why they never considered invading America -
“There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass”.

The Guru also hopes America’s invaders, AKA Liberals, Goonion leaders/members, education trough feeders, government trough feeders, entitlement classes, Queer Nation members, and Welfare ParasiticPersons do not push the American people too far.

However, with the yawning chasm between producers and parasites growing daily, and with the deliberate dumbing down of the ParasiticPerson classes, arguably it is a good time to consider a very long vacation off planet - were that possible.


9 posted on 11/27/2012 5:41:09 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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How long before we are forced to become the Cossacks ambushing the blue-helmeted invaders and cutting their supply lines? < /rhetorical Q >


10 posted on 11/27/2012 9:57:32 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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