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To: jmaroneps37
Some of my favorite cookies were Archway cookies. Unfortuantely a few years back they got bought up by a bunch of crooks in Italy (Parmalat). After that they were shifted from one incompetent/corrupt set of investors to another.

That they are still a going concern with all of the unnecessary debt load that was incurred via all of the non-value-added sales is a miracle.

The history of Hostess is even more checkered. At one time they were owned by a computer company! That they survived as long as they did through a series of incompetent management and unnecessary and non-value-added sales is also a miracle.

The unions may have been the ones to put the final nail in the coffin, but most of the nails were put in my Bain-type idiots who were more concerned with short-term profits than maintaining the longterm health of a company that provided a product that millions of people enjoyed.

5 posted on 11/16/2012 11:59:42 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
The unions may have been the ones to put the final nail in the coffin, but most of the nails were put in my Bain-type idiots who were more concerned with short-term profits than maintaining the longterm health of a company that provided a product that millions of people enjoyed.

Not every buy out or bail out works. Many fail.

I remember PSA Airlines on the west coast ca. 1990. They were loved by customers and employees. Then US Air buys them, their routes, gates, planes; drop the name PSA and in a few years mostly close down former PSA operations.

Along comes United shuttle, yuk but they kept operating and finally Southwest Airlines which thrives in the same space.

17 posted on 11/16/2012 12:08:16 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
most of the nails were put in my Bain-type idiots who were more concerned with short-term profits than maintaining the longterm health of a company that provided a product that millions of people enjoyed

Thanks for your sterling analysis, Mr. Axelrod.

Just for your information, the typical LBO portfolio company is purchased by "Bain-type idiots" for a holding period of seven to ten years - "short term profits" are the exact opposite of the LBO investing model.

23 posted on 11/16/2012 12:13:00 PM PST by wideawake
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
The unions may have been the ones to put the final nail in the coffin, but most of the nails were put in my Bain-type idiots who were more concerned with short-term profits than maintaining the longterm health of a company that provided a product that millions of people enjoyed.

Don't forget the many nails put in by the EPA, OSHA, USDA, Sarbanes-Oxley, Workmen's Comp, Unemployment Insurance, Property Taxes, Health Insurance Mandates . . .

53 posted on 11/16/2012 12:44:03 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
longterm health of a company that provided a product that millions of people enjoyed.

Bammy folks should be thrilled they hate Twinkies anyway. Try and find one in a school cafeteria, or a lunch bag, since they now examine them, for content.

57 posted on 11/16/2012 12:53:39 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“that provided a product that millions of people enjoyed.”

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When I was working I bought myself a Hostess Cherry Pie every single day.

Yum !

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71 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:43 PM PST by Mears
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