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To: Jim from C-Town
"You ramblings about the collapse of the country would have one believe that you live in a vacuum. Are you not a member of society? Do you not have a stake in America?"

I see your problem now. You are denying reality.

There is no "if" as in "if the system collapses" There is just "when".

Right now the total for the unfunded mandates of Obamacare, Medicare and Social security plus the rest of the debt and the interest on all of it exceeds 150 Trillion. There is no way to stop it now. There was some slight hope that we would get actual cuts in Medicare and Social Security and reverse course (Doubtful if we could have kept it turned around because the libtards would have pushed for increases as soon as we got any positive signs)

But that is all gone now. Start reading up on the debt bubble. (Its clear you don't understand all the implications) We are in a feedback loop now. They've started with QE3 Why? because 1 and 2 didn't work. The Fed is buying the federal debt by printing more money and issuing more bonds. Without severe cuts right now...(And we are not talking cutting the amount of a proposed increase but actual cuts) in all spending across the board then for the Fed Gov to pay the interest on QE3 they will need to do QE4 and then to pay QE4 they will need QE5. This is fact. There is no way to increase revenues enough to pay the increased debt load of the bonds issued.

AND even if you get actual cuts if you do it wrong you can cause a feedback loop wherein people who lose their fedgov jobs will end up costing you more in pensions and unemployment and another parting bennies.

Bottom line, since we are going over the cliff lets do it on the Socialists watch. Then they get to own it.

95 posted on 11/09/2012 1:14:19 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I believe their is going to be a realignment or collapse.

What we have to work towards is a structured realignment. The fact is that you are correct, things are dire. They will not be paid. However, we can eliminate many of the debts (unfunded liabilities) by restructuring or eliminating those liabilities.

These changes will happen. Hoping that they occur in a cataclysm and working toward a cataclysmic result will not be the best outcome. Though it may be inevitable.

96 posted on 11/09/2012 1:39:54 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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