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To: Jim from C-Town
"Sure, let the Republic get destroyed. You are a sub moronic idiot."

hahahah your grasp of history is amazing.

We don't have barbarians at the gate we have enemies within the walls and they are in charge. Now either you engage them with armed insurrection OR you let them destroy the Republic. (Break the Federal Money Machine's back)

We are not talking about Goths and Visigoth's storming our shores. We are talking the perpetual debt machine that enslaves citizens. This perpetual debt machine is because of an unholy alliance of the Spenders (Congress) and the Printers (The Fed) they ONLY way to stop the madness is to allow them to crush the debt machine with its own weight or it will never stop.

There is no way to repay the debt we owe. Did you know we now owe more than all the wealth ever produced in the history of the world added together? (When you factor in the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Social Security and Obamacare and the interest on that debt.)

Add into that fact that we are an Oil Economy AND the oil gets harder and harder to get because what is out there is further and further under the ground. It used to be we had a 1-600 plus ratio of energy harvesting in the oil industry. (that means for every one unit expended your return was 600 units.) As time passes and more and more of the low hanging fruit in oil reserves is used up that ratio drops dramatically now we are getting down under a 1-20 ratio. Its still way better than all other forms of energy as far as the ratio is concerned BUT it means Oil prices will still increase exponentially and there isn't shit ANYONE can do about it.

Add in the debt load and you have a global collapse in the world markets. So we can continue to run your dog and pony show and play games for the TV cameras OR we can take our medicine NOW and get through the heartache so we can start the healing process.

I say let's do it and let the Socialists own it. Then we can toss Socialism on the dung heap and be done with it forever.

91 posted on 11/09/2012 10:33:48 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
No Barbarians? What would you call a Third World country of
114,000,000 peopel who share a 1,500 mile open border with the pre emminant economic and millitary country on the face of the earth.

We have more than 10% of Mexico’s population occupying vast swaths of this country. We have 40 million African Americans in this country. 40% have an IQ under 80. Their average IQ is 85. They have illigitimmate children at a rate of 75%. They have an unemployment rate of 14% and a real unemployment rate of close to 50%. MANY are straight up UNEMPLOYABLE in a modern economy.

A vast majority of violent crimes are commited by minorities, far in excess of their representations in the general public.

Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 28% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 16% of Hispanic males and 4.4% of white males.

Sixty-five percent of state prison inmates belonged to racial or ethnic minorities in 1991, up from 60% in 1986.

At current levels of incarceration newborn black males in this country have a greater than a 1 in 4 chance of going to prison during their lifetimes, while Hispanic males have a 1 in 6 chance, and white males have a 1 in 23 chance of serving time.

The number of drug trafficking convictions in State courts more than doubled between 1986 and1990. Of persons convicted of drug trafficking in State courts in 1990—85% were male 42% were white, 57% black, and 1% of other races.

Have you ever been to the East Side of Cleveland, or Center City Philadelphis or Downtown Baltimore, or ANY neighborhood in Detroit after 10PM?

If these people aren’t what we would call Barbarians, what are they.

According to dictionary.com
bar·bar·i·an
noun
1.
a person in a savage, primitive state; uncivilized person.

2.
a person without culture, refinement, or education; philistine.

3.
(loosely) a foreigner

92 posted on 11/09/2012 11:45:00 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Mad Dawgg
You ramblings about the collapse of the country would have one believe that you live in a vacuum. Are you not a member of society? Do you not have a stake in America? Do you have children and progeny that you care to see live in a society ruled by civil laws as opposed to the whims of a dictator?

When society collapses, their is no Gult’s Gulch to escape to.

94 posted on 11/09/2012 11:53:34 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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