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To: TomGuy
Patraeus is effectively saying that there were ZERO calls for help from Wood or Doherty or any one else. [That doesn't ring true.]

Your conclusion does not necessarily follow. Patraeus is saying that no one at the CIA told people not to give aid. Calls for help could have gone to others than the CIA. The CIA could have said "we need higher authorization" and were denied it from the POTUS". So there are at least these two other possibilities.

Calls for aid would normally be to the U.S. military, not the CIA. See Travis McGee's excellent posts on this subject. Patraeus seems to be pointing a finger upstairs at the POTUS with this declaration.

21 posted on 10/27/2012 7:34:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Patraeus seems to be pointing a finger upstairs at the POTUS with this declaration. “

Then why not just say it in plain english? He could tell us PRECISELY who decided what, why, and their exact words. Is there ONE person in our national government, military or intelligence agencies who is not an abject liar?
Why is this level of dishonesty towards the American people tolerated? A half truth is a full lie.

Almost every single word they say to us is rife with lies. Every press conference, every statement, every speech. All of it.
This incidently is the hallmark of a dictatorship, not a constitutional republic.

Does anybody believe that people like Petraeus, Obama, Hillary, Beohner, Mitchell, Justice Roberts simultaneously believe we cannot be told the truth, yet hold the people in reverence politically? NO, they see themselves as our Platonic guardians, and that we do not need information because we do not make decisions.


28 posted on 10/27/2012 8:16:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: marktwain
Calls for aid would normally be to the U.S. military, not the CIA.

Woods and Doherty were contract employees for some intelligence agency to track down missing surface-to- missiles. That agency was probably the CIA. If it was the CIA, they apparently requested to engage 2-3 times and were told to 'stand down.' They eventually disobeyed and ran into the fight.

If they called for help, they would be calling 'their' boss. They would expect 'their' boss to act accordingly.

So, who gave the 2-3 'stand down' orders? Someone with a pay grade above Woods and Doherty had to.

Patraeus's comment basically says no one gave a 'stand down' order.

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There are so many versions, so much misinformation and conjecture (partly by design), that it will take a full fledged investigation to ever know the truth. And even then, we might get a muddled PR/PC piece like the 9-11-01 Commission Report.

Every day we seem to get more revelations and more questions.
31 posted on 10/27/2012 8:19:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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