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To: Qwackertoo

Sorry, legally it is irrelevant.

The old putting the victim on trial routine seldom works, and often blows up in the defense’s face.

Especially if Z gets an “OJ jury”......


5 posted on 09/17/2012 4:17:00 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Sorry, legally it is irrelevant.

Sorry, I respectfully disagree that it is clear, in advance, that NO MATTER WHAT may be found, it is already clearly irrelevant.

If evidence of habitual drug use is found, that is likely admissible.

Evidence of boasting about provoking violent confrontations with others? Relevant.

Tastes in porn? Irrelevant.

See, a good lawyer has to look in all reasonable places for relevant evidence, not decide in advance -- without knowing what's to be found -- that, "Oh, no, I mustn't Put The Victim On Trial." (Whether it will STRATEGICALLY backfire is an entirely separate question from the legal admissibility. But I believe that the kinds of admissible evidence I posited above -- drug use and boasting about aggression -- would be both admissible and helpful to the defense.)

9 posted on 09/17/2012 4:23:20 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Emperor Palpatine

It’s discovery, not trial. The defense is entitled to it. The prosecution is trying to make the kid out to be a choir boy. If they try that at trial, the defense needs to be ready with rebuttal evidence. This will keep the prosecution honest at a minimum, and some of it may be admissible on its own, depending on what they find.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 5:06:08 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Sorry, legally it is irrelevant.

The old putting the victim on trial routine seldom works, and often blows up in the defense’s face.

Especially if Z gets an “OJ jury”...


Actually...a lot of this information on Trayvon Martin is relevant for the trial...especially since the prosecution’s only case is to attack Zimmerman as a liar and as not credible. They cannot rely on the facts or evidence of the incident

It is also easier to get entered as evidence, past transgressions of the victim...it is much easier to get such info on the victim admitted than getting similar info admitted on the defendant. As a lawyer once told me: “There are Rape Shield Laws for a reason...and why we do not have Rapist Shield Laws”

The reason why the Martin family attorney is upset at this development is because he knows that this evidence will be used during the trial....both criminal and civil trials.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 8:14:14 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Blaming Terry Jones for the recent Muslim riots is like blaming the St Louis Rams for football)
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