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QE3: Helicopter Ben Bernanke Unleashes An All-Out Attack On The U.S. Dollar
The Economic Collapse Blog ^ | 09/14/2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 09/14/2012 9:25:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/14/2012 9:25:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: blam; Kartographer

Ping!


2 posted on 09/14/2012 9:28:09 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Weimar Solution by TheBenBernank.

He may wind up doing more damage than Obama.

3 posted on 09/14/2012 9:31:42 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: SeekAndFind
If more of the public realized that what Bernanke is doing, is tantamount to a destruction of generations of American achievement, there would probably be a demand to throw him in a cell with Bernie Madoff. Price "Infaltion" will eventually result; but in the meanwhile the confiscation of the fruits of American labor, wherever stored in Dollars, is going on at a terrible pace.

To understand the economic reality, see Gold & Money In America. Or to see how all of this will combine with Obama's Tax ideas to destroy the Middle Class: Inflation & Capital "Gains" Taxation.

William Flax

4 posted on 09/14/2012 9:36:42 AM PDT by Ohioan
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5 posted on 09/14/2012 9:39:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bernanke is worse than a common thief. Families can recover from the acts of thieves, but they won’t recover from this evil. While Wall Street celebrates, the rest of us are making less and paying more. Filth like Bernanke don’t care.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 9:46:36 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind
Bernanke is trying to keep the patient alive. Bernanke is required by U.S. law to institute policies to try to keep unemployment down.

It's going to take congress though to cure us. We need to raise the import tariffs back up to historical norms (or higher until unemployment goes down). We need to insulate ourselves from future energy price increases. And we need a loose monetary policy to help rebuild our industries that have been devastated by 0 tariffs.

A loose monetary policy without fixing the structural issues above is like a bandaid on a major wound. It's better than nothing but we are still bleeding to death.

Raise the import tariffs, put our people back to work. And when unemployment drops Bernanke will happily go back to fighting inflation instead of unemployment. He can sell the debt he is buying as quick as he bought it if the market is strong.

7 posted on 09/14/2012 9:46:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Ohioan
I would also suggest The Creature from Jekyll Island, a superb, easy to read review of the history and function of the Federal Reserve.
8 posted on 09/14/2012 9:50:25 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: pallis

what about the bump up in retirement funds for those still working and or reinvesting dividends and interest?


9 posted on 09/14/2012 9:51:01 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: pallis
Bernanke is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing according to U.S. Law. And the law is correct, that's what he needs to be doing. The problem isn't Bernanke. The problem is Congress, U.S. Trade Policy, and U.S. Energy Policy.

Fix those and Bernanke will go back to worrying about inflation.

12 USC Sec.225a -CITE-
01/03/2012 (112-90)
TITLE 12 - BANKS AND BANKING
CHAPTER 3 - FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
SUBCHAPTER I - DEFINITIONS, ORGANIZATION, AND GENERAL PROVISIONS AFFECTING SYSTEM
Sec. 225a. Maintenance of long run growth of monetary and credit aggregates
-STATUTE-
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Open Market Committee shall maintain long run growth of the monetary and credit aggregates commensurate with the economy's long run potential to increase production, so as to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.

10 posted on 09/14/2012 10:00:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind
Printing paper money always has been a problem for leaders who prized individual liberty and opportunity for citizens over outright lust for power for themselves.

Readers of this thread may be interested in the following quotations on the subject from "Our Ageless Constitution." Dr. Edwin Vieira, who contributed to that volume, has written extensively on the Founders' protections for liberty through their provisions for a sound money system. A search of his books and writings provide a great resource for understanding the dangers of paper money, and the wonderful protections of the Founders' system.

Thomas Jefferson:

"Paper is liable to be abused, has been, is, and forever will be abused, in every country in which it is permitted."

". . . although the other nations of Europe have tried and trodden every path of force or folly in fruitless quest of the same object, yet we still expect to find in juggling tricks and banking dreams, that money can be made out of nothing. . . The misfortune is. . . we shall plunge ourselves in unextinguishable debt, and entail on our posterity an inheritance of external taxes, which will bring our government and people into the condition of those of England, an nation of pikes and gudgeons, the latter bred merely as food for the former."

"Stock dealers and banking companies, by the aid of a paper system [paper money] are enriching themselves to the ruin of our country, and swaying the government by their possession of the printing presses, which their wealth commands, and by other means, not always honorable to the character of our countrymen."

Then there is John Maynard Keynes observation in "The Economic Consequences of the Peace - 1920":

"Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method, they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. . . . Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. . . . (It) does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose. . . ."

11 posted on 09/14/2012 10:03:06 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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“...promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.”

Seriously, you think this is what QE3 is doing? Get real. It will do little or nothing for employment. If it creates jobs, they will be minimum wage and part time. Commodities are going to soar while salaries remain stagnant or depressed. Interest rates are going to remain artificially low for as “long-term” as they can suppressed, and still have a dollar worth more than the paper they are printed on. Meanwhile, the large banks that are still holding billions in bad mortgage debt get another reprieve for their part in all this corruption. Excuse it anyway you want. Bernanke is a thief, and creating more debt to feed the habit of debt isn’t a cure. It will be the thing that kills us.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 10:14:25 AM PDT by pallis
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To: DannyTN

His policies are destroying savers, retirement plans and people who have been responsible. How do you feel about that.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 10:36:45 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: pallis

I think it is much more than just bad mortgage debt. I think the securitization process itself, with the systemically associated loss of original titles, notes and failures to file county property transfers is at the center of all the mortgage mess. The focus on fraud in foreclosure proceedings with “settlements” achieved, simply serves to COVER UP the original fraud, the destruction of the paper trail that is necessary for maintenance of the legal legitimacy of all property, inherent in the securitization process of creating the mortgage “backed” securities that the Executive Branch of govt. holds in the trillions (Fed, Fannie, Freddie, FHLB, FHA, etc). These MBS’ are not only associated with debt, they have no legal standing ina court of law because of the absence of producable title transfers, note transfers. The fraud inherent in the securitization process has been hidden all along.

All “transactions” after the securitization process with destruction of original titles and notes are fraudulent. The rating agencies (S and P, Moody’s, Fitch, et al) all assumed that legal processes were followed systemically in the securitization processes...they were not followed..systemically.

The mortgage processors could not fill waiting orders for tranches of Mortgage Backed Securities if they did title transfers, note assignments for each mortgage, and county registrations can take months. It was practical to destroy the legal standing of the mortgages for all time by simply committing fraud by omission rather than follow due process. What has been created with each mortgage in the securitization processes is, in legal terms, a new entity...”NON-PROPERTY”. It is a crime.

THe first right protected by the Constitution is the right of property. There is no legitimate reason for the Constitution if there is NO PROPERTY. The de facto creation of “NON-PROPERTY” destroys the Constitution and its relevance to our very reason for being as a Constitutional Republic, and mortgage backed securitization is the model used today. The mortgage industry has been nationalized and formerly private property, property with legal standing, is piling up on the balance sheets of the Fed Reserve and in the Agencies of the Executive Branch.

THe taxpayer is paying for it, and as the securities have no legal standing in a court of law, the public is paying, guaranteeing...”property” of no value. The Fed is buying MBSs from Fannie Mae at $40B a month..the MBS’s are worthless, and we are held ultimately accountable for the “debt”.


14 posted on 09/14/2012 10:38:53 AM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: pallis
If you look at what QE3 is doing, he's buying mortgage debt.

He's increasing the money supply, but doing it in a way that is likely to make more money available to the public as mortgage loans. He's hoping to cause new housing starts and put construction workers back to work.

So despite your impugning his personal integrity, his plan is logical in light of his congressional mandate. Construction is one of the largest industries that he can target, and one that has been hit the hardest with job losses. Manufacturing has had more job losses, but he can't effectively target manufacturing as well as he can home building. But Congress can, easily with an import tariff.

Employment by major industry sector

Now you can probably argue, and I'd probably agree to an extent, that there is a glut of housing and building more just to put people back to work doesn't make sense. But it's what Bernanke can do, and we'll grow into the additional housing soon enough. And it's at least producing real assets and not wasting the money on producing some alternative energy that was never even viable in the first place.

It makes a lot more sense to look at where we are spending our money, that is not producing American jobs and try to get that to produce American jobs. Thus my call for import tariffs. But Bernanke can't do that. That takes Congress or the Executive.

15 posted on 09/14/2012 11:05:02 AM PDT by DannyTN
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"His policies are destroying savers, retirement plans and people who have been responsible. How do you feel about that."

People losing their jobs, major industries and businesses going under destroys savings and retirement plans much more effectively than does Bernanke pursuing a loose monetary policy. So I "feel about" that as the lesser of two evils. And the choice between two evils has been made necessary by the unwise trade polices that we have had for the last 30 years.

So far we haven't seen the hyper-inflation that the doomsayers have said is inevitable, because despite all the money pumping, he's simply offset the drop in money supply from the credit freezes.

When the credit market starts pumping money back in, Bernanke will have to start selling the debt he bought up or there will be inflation. But we won't get to that until unemployment is down.

16 posted on 09/14/2012 11:20:02 AM PDT by DannyTN
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“He’s hoping to cause new housing starts and put construction workers back to work.”

It’s hard for me to impugn something that is so lacking as Bernanke’s character. What he hopes for, and what will transpire, are two different things. What is already occurring is inflation in commodities. We can call that collateral damage to all the little people who don’t figure into the QE scheme. While we are waiting for the construction industry to fire back up, and for another housing boom to rally the economy with real money, there will be more people going under, contributing to the glut of unemployment and housing. At best, depending on your perspective of best, Bernanke’s latest QE will cause the stock market to rally, and maybe create enough growth on paper to give Obama bragging rights come November. You go on believing this is a good thing, spawned from good intentions and legal mandate. The debt crisis will still be here, worse than ever, when it is all over.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 11:32:52 AM PDT by pallis
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"The debt crisis will still be here, worse than ever, when it is all over."

The Federal Reserve didn't cause the debt crisis. That's 100% Congress. The Federal Reserve didn't even own many gov't securities before 2008. And the crisis is 2008 was caused by the oil price spike which resulted in unemployment. The Unemployment caused mortgages to go bad and the two caused the banking crisis and credit freeze.

A lot of the commodity price increase you are seeing is due to oil, not Bernanke.

The debt crisis will indeed still be here when this is over. And this won't be over until Congress and/or the Executive wise up about trade and energy policies. But none of that is Bernanke's fault.

To the extent that we have inflation the debt crisis may be easier to deal with. But I don't think Bernanke would inflate for that reason. It's not his mandate, and he didn't before the 2008 crisis. And I'm not advocating that. I think he is responding soley to the unemployment as he should. But Bernanke is just first aid. Congress is cause and the cure.

18 posted on 09/14/2012 11:46:47 AM PDT by DannyTN
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DannyTN said: "We need to raise the import tariffs back up to historical norms (or higher until unemployment goes down). "

We aren't living in the 1950s.

There are many, many industries today that are dependent upon sales abroad. If you enact barriers to free trade, you will reward some people here in the U.S. and punish others.

What is it about free trade that threatens you? The sooner Americans adapt to the competitive pressures from the rest of the world, the sooner we will have an economy worth investing in.

That the standard of living of Americans must be reduced for some is a reality that must be accepted. There is simply no way for the less-productive among us to live much better than more highly productive people in other countries.

If you feel personally generous, then you should give whatever amount of your income you wish to such people. To enforce your standard of who should prosper and who should not isn't fair to those of us who want to encourage greater productivity and the prosperity which it can enable.

The livelihoods of millions of people who once would have worked our farms with manual labor, has been replaced with the livelihoods of thousands making harvesting machines. If you make it impossible to sell harvesting machines world-wide, you force those millions back onto the farms. Who will be available to make luxury items if so many must toil to make food?

Don't buy into the "zero-sum" fallacies of liberalism. There isn't a fixed amount of food which requires that we decide who gets it and who doesn't. We want to encourage the production of food as a general benefit to all.

Similarly, there is no fixed amount of jobs. If you want as many jobs as possible, then you must encourage people to create jobs. It is the profit motive that encourages that creation. Economic barriers simply reward some people at the expense of others. Jobs that only exist because of government barriers are WORTHLESS. Jobs that only exist because of "quantitative easing" are WORTHLESS.

19 posted on 09/14/2012 11:58:52 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: DannyTN

Your answer is reasonable given the circumstances. (Pick your poison). Especially about the trade policies.

Whether by design or stupidity we are De-Industrializing the USA.

The FR is understating the inflation rate for political reasons.

Because hyperinflation hasn’t arrived yet doesn’t mean that it won’t get us. Kinda of like jumping out of an Airplane, your doing great until the end.

Even a 50% devaluation of the dollar over 5 years is going to really hurt a lot of people.


20 posted on 09/14/2012 11:59:26 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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