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Something is happening among Blacks voters: little reported polls show surprising Romney support
coachisright.com ^ | August 30, 2012 | Emma Karlin, staff writer

Posted on 08/30/2012 7:26:03 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

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To: jmaroneps37

I know a number of church attending black people who are absolutely, unequivocably opposed to the idea of gay marriage. And some other very hard-working people who, all things being equal, would rather have a job.

Just about all of them voted for Obama out of a sense of pride and relief that a black man could be elected POTUS less than 50 years after Jim Crow ended. But many of them are not impressed with his performance. It’s a small number who will change their vote to be sure, but significant.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 8:34:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Elendur

And many blacks who are on Welfare don’t want to be!!! That’s the key!!

This racist view that all blacks are lazy and just taking the dole is absolutely wrong.

Yes a higher percentage of the black population is on assistance, but don’t think for one minute that all blacks are, or that all blacks that are want to be!

15% official and 20%+ unofficial black unemployment will ensure Obama isn’t going to see anywhere near the support he got last time. Hell last time McCain got something like 4% of the black vote, to come out with poll showing Romney will get 0% of the black vote is NONSENSE.


22 posted on 08/30/2012 8:36:34 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: jmaroneps37

The big question is ... will they show up at the polls? Or will Obama still get 95% of the ones that do vote?


23 posted on 08/30/2012 8:41:08 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: hampdenkid
Hi Hampden Kid--good to "hear" from you!

Your comment makes a good point. Yet, after listening to Artur Davis Tuesday night, I am beginning to think, as well as hope, that many of those who--like Davis--supported Obama because he was "one of them" are now realizing that the "halo" the LSM was so wont to put around Obama's head has slipped so far down that it has become nothing more than "shackle"!

Davis spoke--eloquently and passionately--to this issue; I really do hope and pray Davis' message has not fallen on as many deaf ears as the Vice-Panderer and his arrogant ilk hope--if not pray--it has.

24 posted on 08/30/2012 8:54:17 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: hampdenkid
I believe that the vast — VAST — majority of blacks will follow Lovie Smith’s injunction to his fellow blacks: “Remember, you got to vote for Obama because he’s an African American.”

That may be true, but it's not just black voters that Obama needs to keep. He may lose 10% of the black vote, which may not, by itself, be significant. But if Obama loses those, in addition to the votes of those white independents who felt that 'white guilt' last time, but have soured on him in the past couple of years, he's toast.

25 posted on 08/30/2012 9:15:45 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HamiltonJay

the RNC needs to put an add together and run it next week during the DNC replaying Obamas speeech to blacks to get out of their house coats and slippers.


26 posted on 08/30/2012 9:16:29 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Elendur
MANY blacks are not on welfare, hard-working, and CHRISTIAN. many of them, are against abortion, and gay marriage.

Yup, there are a lot of good black folks out there. In many areas the black community is, as you point out, VERY socially conservative (against abortion and gay marriage). They're still going to vote for Obama though. Identity politics is very, very powerful. They've got it in their heads that Republicans don't like them, don't care about them, don't want to help them, etc. You and I know it isn't true, but they believe it. The power of the media's propaganda is truly that strong.

Sorry, I wish you were right. I really, really do. But you're not. Blacks are going to vote overwhelmingly for Obama and Romney will be lucky to get even 1%-2% of the black vote. Less blacks will likely vote this time, but the ones that day are going to vote probably 98%-99% for Obama. It is what it is.

27 posted on 08/30/2012 10:12:26 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: milagro

Thanks, Milagro. It’s good to hear from you, too. I sure hope you’re right in your analysis. I didn’t get to watch Davis’ speech because I’m on Roatan Island working non-stop on a magazine-writing assignment. So, thank God for FR — the only place I turn for news and views when I’m on the road!


28 posted on 08/30/2012 10:16:32 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: jmaroneps37

It’s all about that 3-letter word - J O B S.


29 posted on 08/30/2012 10:45:14 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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30 posted on 08/30/2012 10:47:56 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“J O B S” ... thats 4 letters. :)


31 posted on 08/30/2012 11:09:57 AM PDT by mikemoose (Pray for the Unborn)
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“J O B S” ... thats 4 letters. :)


Tell that to Biden!


32 posted on 08/30/2012 11:17:11 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Dunno.
I think Obama will still get 95% of the black vote, but that there will be fewer blacks voting.
In any case, the ‘Pubbies would be idiots to count on ANY of the black vote, or to try pandering to them...


33 posted on 08/30/2012 11:39:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I’m really sick and tired of your superficial responses that are nothing more than uninformed opinion, without any supporting data or reasoning!

MAJOR SARCASM ALERT.

Thanks for your thoughts. What did you think of Romney’s speech, and how is it being perceived/received?


34 posted on 08/31/2012 7:58:41 AM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage

My personal thoughts about Romney’s speech, it was good, not great.. It did what it needed to do, but it certainly was not the best acceptance speach I’ve ever heard.

However, the entire convention, nearly all the speeches have articulated and pointed out the growing and undeniable gulf between this administration and what they believe, and what american was founded upon.

I know this isn’t popular with some here, but of the speeches I heard and watch, Condi’s stole the show, it was a complete lambasting and repudiation of this administration and its failings and the dangers those failings create. It also articulated the promise and uniqueness of america and contrasted it harshly with what this administration stands for. Sadly it was mostly about foreign policy which most voters ignore.

This was without question the BEST line of any speech given:

“And on a personal note, a little girl grows up in Jim Crow
Birmingham. The segregated city of the south where her parents cannot take her to a movie theater or to restaurants, but they have convinced that even if she cannot have it hamburger at Woolworths, she can be the president of the United States if she wanted to be, and she becomes the secretary of state”

Now, don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed all the prime time speeches. I think Rubio did a fine job, and Ryan did a great job too.

As to Romney’s, I think he did what he needed to do, he showed he was a serious candidate, not the extremist that the left tries to paint him as. I don’t think he elicited the emotional side of the crowd as much as he could have, which is basically saying he didn’t complete the sale in terms of really firing up folks for him, but I don’t think Romney will ever be able to do that. He’s too controlled and methodical for that. There were clearly spots of emotion in his speech, but he’s not going to get or evoke a large emotional response. He did however do what he needed to do.

I’ve always said, and always believed, the election of this emotion is to get rid of Obama, Romney will not be the inspiration.. Its just now who he is. Unlike the pundit’s claim he needs to turn the anti-obama into the pro-romney, I don’t think so. It would be nice if he could, but the reality is, the ANTI-OBAMA is so eviceral that very vew Politicians in the course of US history could turn that pro them as the main argument... Romney is capable, but he’s not that level of a politician, in our entire nations history, I don’t think more than a handful could have pulled that high bar off. However, like I said, unlike some pundits I don’t think he had to.

All he had to do is show, I’m serious, I understand the problems, and I’m not some crazy madman that the Obama camp wants to portray me as.

As for red meat, honestly I thought he entire convention was far more toned down than it could have been given the absolute disaster this administration has been. I think more red meat might have gotten more emotion, but I also understand that it coudl have also turned off voters who voted for Obama last time but now know it was a mistake.

Lets face it, most people are reluctant to admit their mistakes, even when they are in front of them, and don’t like them rubbed in their faces, this group is who most of the prime time was aimed at, and when viewed through that window it did a good job.

I think you will see a polling move toward romney as those in that group basically were pitched, its Okay, you made a mistake... we understand, now its time to fix it instead of continuing it. OF course that depends on how many people were watching, but I would expect numbers to continue to track up in the polls in romney’s favor, from here to election day.. with the only forseeable reverse a brief one after Clinton delivers his speech. I am sure Clinton Nastalgia might give Obama a brief bounce, but it won’t last. Certainly Obama’s speech won’t move him any.


35 posted on 08/31/2012 8:21:53 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Well said. Thanks!


36 posted on 08/31/2012 9:41:35 AM PDT by karnage
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