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Atheist Richard Dawkins: We Are ‘Apes,‘ Evidence for Jesus’ Existence ‘Is Surprisingly Shaky’
The Blaze ^ | August 26, 2012 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 08/27/2012 2:13:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The existence of Jesus Christ was attested to by numerous witnesses and the fact that twelve of them at least were willing to die horrific deaths rather than recant what they saw and heard. Later on disinterested historic authorities such as Josephus took his “existence” at face value. Who would be willing to suffer such a fate for the sake of Richard Dawkins and can anybody swear they’ve actually met the SOB? Anybody?


41 posted on 08/27/2012 3:17:23 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Huskrrrr

>>Not much said regarding Muslims.

He said that there is little evidence that Jesus even existed as a historical figure. That means he’s calling the Koran a lie and Mo’Ham-Ed a liar. Maybe he can get himself a fatwa.

Frankly, as a Christian, I don’t care what he says. He’s heard the Gospel and studied it and he made his choice.


42 posted on 08/27/2012 3:25:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Sir, why did you go to such lengths to hide yourself?”

Won’t wash, Dickie. God is inside your head. He KNOWS how you have run from Him, denied Him. He KNOWS how many times He has Touched you.


43 posted on 08/27/2012 3:31:13 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: katana

it is not the eye witness accounts but the actual written records of the day. For example the romans actualy kept written records of who was crucified and when.


44 posted on 08/27/2012 3:42:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

“If you seek Me, you will find Me, if you search for Me with all your heart....”


45 posted on 08/27/2012 3:48:08 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: jessduntno
Huh. That smart and he doesn’t know how to construct a sentence? Go figure. Unless, of course, he really does move among circles and they are inanimate. There may be such circles, but their existence is something about which I am unaware.

circle (ˈsɜːk ə l) — n

5. a group of people sharing an interest, activity, upbringing, etc; set: golf circles ; a family circle

46 posted on 08/27/2012 4:24:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: jessduntno
I can't even imagine the place that those two will reside. I know it did snow there once... the year that the New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl.

LLS

47 posted on 08/27/2012 4:39:50 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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5. a group of people sharing an interest, activity, upbringing, etc; set: golf circles ; a family circle

“There may be such circles, but their existence is something about which I am unaware.”

I am sure the circles are animate. When referring to them they should be recognized as such. I also think, if I may be so bold, that the word “of” is a preposition and intelligent people generally concede they should avoid ending sentences in prepositions, which you made no mention of. Heh heh heh.


48 posted on 08/27/2012 6:37:05 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: longtermmemmory
I am unaware of any such records from Judea ever being found. Just copies of the writings of Josephus (who may have had original materials to work from). It has, after all, been two thousand years, Jerusalem was laid waste in 70 AD, and original documents of any kind from that period even in Rome itself are unheard of. Do you have a source or link? It is why the Dead Sea Scrolls are so absolutely exciting and priceless.

People like Dawkins point to that and say "A ha, no evidence!". But if we used the same standard on other historic figures we could equally say "where is the evidence that Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great actually existed?" The Egyptians left their records in stone and papyrus that was buried deep and dry. The Romans and Jews on parchment and wax tablets which are all long gone. Just copies of copies of copies (as with the Gospels) exist.

49 posted on 08/27/2012 6:59:03 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His agnosticism on the historicity of Jess Christ simply paints him as a nut and does us Christians a huge favor.


50 posted on 08/27/2012 7:03:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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I am sure the circles are animate. When referring to them they should be recognized as such. I also think, if I may be so bold, that the word “of” is a preposition and intelligent people generally concede they should avoid ending sentences in prepositions, which you made no mention of. Heh heh heh.

I'm pretty sure the circles are figurative.

I wouldn't mention the practice of ending a sentence with a preposition, since it seems to be a fairly common grammatical construction in English. If this exchange were taking place in French, I might comment, since ending sentences with prepositions would sound utterly bizarre in French. The Oxford dictionary people have this to say: There’s no necessity to ban prepositions from the end of sentences. Ending a sentence with a preposition is a perfectly natural part of the structure of modern English.

51 posted on 08/28/2012 5:30:18 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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“I’m pretty sure the circles are figurative.”

That doesn’t make sense.

A circle of rocks THAT bakes in the sun would be correct.

A circle of sunbathers WHO bake in the sun would be correct.

The figurative aspect has nothing to do with it.

As for ending a sentence in a preposition, if you should see the editors of that piece, tell them they are a circle of ninnies WHO know nothing. Seeming to be fairly common matters little. A circle of fools WHO pronounce it so does not make it so.


52 posted on 08/28/2012 9:11:19 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno
The figurative aspect has nothing to do with it.

"Circles" also means the social groups one associates with; I've seen it used in that context for as long as I can remember. And the dictionary definition I linked previously supports that usage, as well.

As for ending a sentence in a preposition, if you should see the editors of that piece, tell them they are a circle of ninnies WHO know nothing. Seeming to be fairly common matters little. A circle of fools WHO pronounce it so does not make it so.

What I wonder is where people came up with the silly idea that it is unacceptable to end a sentence (in English) with a preposition. While it's possible, it just sounds horribly awkward when trying to avoid a construction that normally requires the terminal preposition. How do you tell your kids to put the dog out? Do you always remember to turn the lights off?

53 posted on 08/29/2012 4:47:02 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

“Circles” also means the social groups one associates with; I’ve seen it used in that context for as long as I can remember. And the dictionary definition I linked previously supports that usage, as well.”

I’m sorry you didn’t understand my complaints about the article. You do not describe a circle of people “that” do something...they are a group of people; “that” is incorrect. I know what a circle is, dear. A sewing circle, a circle of friends, etc. Please.

And no, I don’t turn lights off. I turn off the lights. And if Pepper needs to go out, I ask someone to let out the dog. Or I do it myself.


54 posted on 08/29/2012 8:06:46 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Williams

Playboy has actually done some great interviews. The articles...


55 posted on 08/29/2012 2:07:35 PM PDT by Borges
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