Skip to comments.Atheist Richard Dawkins: We Are ‘Apes,‘ Evidence for Jesus’ Existence ‘Is Surprisingly Shaky’
Posted on 08/27/2012 2:13:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Famed atheist Richard Dawkins sat down with Playboy Magazine to discuss the simple beauty of evolution, the improbability of God and why the pope should be arrested, among other subjects. As usual, Dawkins took a provocative approach in the interview one that people of faith will surely find offensive. These contentious anti-religious views appear in the September issue of Playboy.
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Toward the beginning of the interview, Dawkins was asked to weigh in and explain why, in the past, he has called himself a tooth faith agnostic. His explanation essentially frames his overarching views on Gods existence. Heres how the dialogue unfolded:
PLAYBOY: Youve described yourself as a tooth fairy agnostic. What is that?
DAWKINS: Rather than say hes an atheist, a friend of mine says, Im a tooth fairy agnostic, meaning he cant disprove God but thinks God is about as likely as the tooth fairy.
PLAYBOY: So you dont completely rule out the idea of a supreme being. Critics see that as leaving an opening.
DAWKINS: You can think so, if you think theres an opening for the tooth fairy.
While its unlikely that the Lord exists at least in Dawkins mind if given the opportunity to ask the creator (in the unlikely event hes real) a question, the famed biologist said hed ask, Sir, why did you go to such lengths to hide yourself?
When it comes to the individuals Dawkins associates himself with, he admitted not having any deeply religious friends. In addition to separating himself from those who believe in a higher power, Dawkins took a swipe at the intellectual capacity of those who embrace God.
Its not that I shun them, he said of the religious. Its that the circles I move in tend to be educated, intelligent circles, and there arent any religious people among them that I know of.
Of course, many intelligent and educated people do, indeed, embrace the existence of a higher power. However, it seems Dawkins either avoids or simply hasnt encountered these people.
As for the Bible and Jesus Christ central tenets of the Christian faith the famed non-theist didnt have many favorable accolades to share. On the sociopolitical front, he believes that the holy books associated with Christianity, Judaism and Islam will prevent peace from ever coming to fruition in the Middle East.
Theres not much hope to the extent that the most influential protagonists both base their hostility on 2,000-year-old books that they believe give them title to the land, he explained.
Rather than staking the claim that Jesus Christ was merely a historical figure, but that he simply wasnt the son of God as many other atheists have done, Dawkins seems to cast doubt on his existence.
The evidence he existed is surprisingly shaky, he told Playboy. The earliest books in the New Testament to be written were the Epistles, not the Gospels. Its almost as though Saint Paul and others who wrote the Epistles werent that interested in whether Jesus was real.
Even if hes fictional, whoever wrote his lines was ahead of his time in terms of moral philosophy, he added.
Dawkins called the idea that Jesus died for our sins barking mad. At the center of his angst over the salvation story is the notion that God found the need to torture himself to the point of death. He called the entire story a truly disgusting idea.
While he holds these intense views, he did admit that he hasnt read the entire Bible, but that he believes his knowledge of it is more profound than most fundamentalist Christians. Despite not having read the entire book, the evolutionary biologist said that the book of Ecclesiastes is his favorite.
Dawkins also criticized the Pope and made the case against his alleged cover-up of crimes that were committed by clergy. He also went on to address evolution and his view that human beings are essentially apes:
PLAYBOY: Lets turn to evolution, which many people misunderstand, such as believing we descend from apes.
DAWKINS: We are apes. We descend from extinct animals that would have been classified as apes. We are not descended from modern chimps or bonobos or gorillas. Theyve been evolving for exactly the same length of time as we have.
PLAYBOY: So what makes us human?
DAWKINS: We are a unique ape. We have language. Other animals have systems of communication that fall far short of that. They dont have the same ability to communicate complicated conditionals and what-ifs and talk about things that are not present. These are all unique manifestations of our evolved ape brain, which some evidence suggests came about through a rather limited number of mutations.
These, of course, are only the highlights. While Dawkins has shared many of these views before, he reiterated, clarified and intensified his stance on non-belief and theism in his Playboy dialogue.
And it would be barking mad. Unless of course as Ronald Reagan once said, “HE is who he said HE was.”
Not much said regarding Muslims.
ted kennedy will meet this GODless creature when he arrives in hell. “Yeah richard... the Bible was all true”.
That is almost a first, as there can be debate on whether Jesus was God in incarnate, but there usually is not much debate on whether he existed or not.
Sounds racist to me.
But he doesn't hide himself. It always surprises me when a "scientist" doesn't see him plain as day.
“Its not that I shun them, he said of the religious. Its that the circles I move in tend to be educated, intelligent circles, and there arent any religious people among them that I know of.
Huh. That smart and he doesn’t know how to construct a sentence? Go figure. Unless, of course, he really does move among circles and they are inanimate. There may be such circles, but their existence is something about which I am unaware.
...because there’s no evidence of a body?
I stopped taking it seriously when I saw the interviewer listed as “Playboy”.
Really doubt Richard Dawkins is qualified to speak on the evidence of Jesus’s existence from either a scientific or historical standpoint.
Interesting that the man has such fear of God he has become insane, trying to run from the Almighty.
“ted kennedy will meet this GODless creature when he arrives in hell. Yeah richard... the Bible was all true.
Ted Kennedy (D-HELL) will undoubtedly represent him.
Dawkins is a particularly dim self-promoter who has a jones for notoriety earned by insulting God. See ya. Wouldn’t wanna be ya.
The Israelis and Arabs fighting over Israel aren't referencing "2,000 year old books."
The Torah, even by the most liberal textual critical standard, is 2500 years and the Koran is 1300 years old.
In his letters, Paul explicitly says that if the crucifixion did not happen, then his words are meaningless.
Everything he says about religion demonstrates that he is only vaguely acquainted with the history and texts he is criticizing.
That pretty much sums up my view on Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins could you please explain why, that if there is no God, did the universe bother to create itself?
Truly amazing. It appears there may actually be a person walking the face of this Earth with an even larger ego than Barack Obama. Who da thunk it!!!
Hey, Dick: if I’m wrong, oh well. If you’re wrong...well, I’d rather be in my position than in yours.
Doctor, Saint Paul apparently thought He was real enough to change from killing Christians to dying under the sword as one.
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