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To: struggle
In a state with a teacher’s union. A non-union state can fire anyone easily for the first three years after three warnings are accrued.

I am assuming that you are speaking of "right to work" states. I guess I never thought about the impact on "public" unions, I always think of that in terms of private companies. So, in a "right to work" state, the state CAN fire an incompetent teacher after three warnings?

51 posted on 05/30/2012 10:22:07 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

>>I am assuming that you are speaking of “right to work” states. I guess I never thought about the impact on “public” unions, I always think of that in terms of private companies. So, in a “right to work” state, the state CAN fire an incompetent teacher after three warnings?

Definitely. In a “right-to-work” or “non-union” state, unions do exist but they are voluntary. I have known teachers that have been fired (more likely “forced to resign” at the end of their contract so their reputation is not damaged), but an especially deficient 1st year teacher was fired “with cause” at my school this year. Furthermore, four teachers were laid off because of budget cuts 2 years ago, and teacher’s pay were furloughed 5 days, in addition to a salary freeze for the last 3 years.

It isn’t all roses, and I really wish the union teacher states would stop bitching about the amount of money they get with the lack of responsibility they have. I’d like to see some of them teach Scarlet Letter to my regular English students with a 90% final exam pass rate.


67 posted on 05/30/2012 4:49:02 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: LibertarianLiz

“I am assuming that you are speaking of “right to work” states. I guess I never thought about the impact on “public” unions, I always think of that in terms of private companies. So, in a “right to work” state, the state CAN fire an incompetent teacher after three warnings? “

Not necessarily 3 warnings- in NC we get put on an “action” plan for a school year and then canned if there is no “improvement”. Tenure here is just automatic contract renewal if the administration doesn’t deem a teacher as a problem.


69 posted on 05/30/2012 6:10:49 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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