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1 posted on 05/30/2012 8:23:42 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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yeah,in Napal


2 posted on 05/30/2012 8:25:20 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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yeah,in Nepal


3 posted on 05/30/2012 8:25:46 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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The problem is the administrators making $120,000 to $180,000 a year. Teachers starting at $35,000 to $40,000 is certainly not rich but if they are expecting to start at $60,000 to $80,000, they need to find some other line of work.


5 posted on 05/30/2012 8:27:30 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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1968 - My daughter came home from PUBLIC SCHOOL kindergarten and said her teacher was very poor and didn't make much money.

The next week, she was in the little Catholic School. Her bros were right behind her.

6 posted on 05/30/2012 8:29:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Springman; Sioux-san; 70th Division; JPG; PGalt; DuncanWaring

Poor starvin teachers will be forced to eat cat food.

if anyone wants on the Michigan Cap con ping list, let me know


8 posted on 05/30/2012 8:34:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Oh, BOO FREAKING HOO.

I started as a 1st year in Mississippi at 28K with $500 a month in medical premiums.

That’s right, $1600 a month, with a stay at home wife working part time.


9 posted on 05/30/2012 8:35:53 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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I dunno...what’s the proper pay scale for professional indoctrinators?


12 posted on 05/30/2012 8:37:34 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (If you want to kick a tiger in the ass, you better have a plan for dealing with his teeth.)
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Rockford is a small town about half an hour north of Grand Rapids.

I am sure there are many residents who somehow manage to live out their lives there on less than what the teachers are earning.


13 posted on 05/30/2012 8:39:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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It's a part-time job!

The problem is single mothers. Teaching was traditionally done by females with a husband who also had income. Married women brought stability to the classroom and that is no longer allowed in the liberal agenda.

16 posted on 05/30/2012 8:44:13 AM PDT by anonsquared
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Whiiiiiiiinnnnnneeeee...


17 posted on 05/30/2012 8:45:05 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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“Those who can-do, those who can’t-teach” Mencken

In other words, pretty good money for those who can’t


19 posted on 05/30/2012 8:50:01 AM PDT by albie
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They are correct when they say people perceive edukators as overworked and underpaid. You cannot argue that they are wrong.

The issue as framed by these people is not the ACTUAL pay and benefits. It is the PERCEIVED pay and benefits framed against the “SACRIFICE” of being a EDUKATOR.

Of course they believe more pay will correct the perception but I say lets just correct the perception by revealing the truth.


20 posted on 05/30/2012 8:51:21 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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It’s the parents’ fault.


22 posted on 05/30/2012 8:54:31 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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$37,184.
$100/day.
Food: $3 (see tagline)
Entertainment: $1 (RedBox DVD rental, plus book from library)
Housing: $25 (http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/)
Taxes: $25 (assuming 25% net tax bracket)
$46/day left over. Plenty to work with.


23 posted on 05/30/2012 8:56:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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Teachers receive their salary for a 9 month season. The remaining 3 months is available for other pursuits...toward masters degree, certification in any number of specialties that carry pay differentials, or just a joe-job to get away from the little monsters for a bit.

It is more likely that the huge number of administrators at all levels, with considerably higher salaries, is the main reason teachers are paid what they perceive as so little. Those high administrator salaries (too many and most are redundant/superfluous) keep the school districts from applying monies to programs.

Finally, going into teaching is a great deal like going into the military. One should know it as a more honorable than remunerative profession.

If ya ain’t doin it cause ya love it, the money ain’t gonna matter.


25 posted on 05/30/2012 9:03:10 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BOR!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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All anyone has to do is be the daughter of a former president, and they will draw a six figure income right out of college (gotta be sure to pick the right ex pres.)


26 posted on 05/30/2012 9:03:37 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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MI spends about 12K per year on each student.

For a class of 20 that’s 240K.

They pay the teacher 40-60K......

Where did the rest of the money go?


31 posted on 05/30/2012 9:18:26 AM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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yes teachers....if you don't think you're getting your fair shake, then please, go and get another job.....let us know how that working 1/2 yr for a full years salary works out....

of course, that job doesn't exist except in the teaching jobs....

what a laugh...

32 posted on 05/30/2012 9:23:09 AM PDT by cherry
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I went to my daughter’s teacher parent conference because my wife had something going on that day. The moment I walked in the room, I swore she *gasped*. She was so surprised to see a father show up to one of these conferences she didn’t know how to act. She automatically became defensive. You can’t stereotype all teachers because I have communicated with some before who were not like this, but I think many of them are so sheltered from the “real” world, having a conversation with a man they automatically think the man is trying to boss them around and tell them what to do. I don’t think they know how to communicate with men.

From that moment on, my wife has been doing all the communicating with our children’s teachers. If I have something to say, I have her e-mail them.


35 posted on 05/30/2012 9:32:32 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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Teaching, as a profession, has seriously degraded, most likely due to a few factors, unions being one of them. When I was in college in the 90s, the dumbest, least ambitious girls went for education certificates, which you must have in CA to teach. I knew one such girl, and she described the curriculum, which sounded like a whole lot of indoctrination and very little substance.

When I was in high school in the 1980s, most of the teachers were fat, sloppy, unprofessional hacks. One of the few teachers I had respect for was my Vietnamese French teacher, who showed up for work every day, on time, wearing a suit and tie. Most of the rest wore jeans and a ragged polo shirt or some such thing, as if they were hanging out at the coffee shop on a Saturday afternoon. And this was at what was considered one of the better schools in the area. There were a few teachers who quite obviously didn’t know what the hell they were talking about.

My experience in school, elementary through high school, is actually what convinced me to go into the Army rather than straight into college despite my high SAT scores. I went to college after. Don’t even get me started on the quality of the college professors...


46 posted on 05/30/2012 10:10:05 AM PDT by fr_freak
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