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Looming Crisis: Officials Close Gulf Waters to Shrimping As Reports of Deformed Seafood Intensify
stuarthsmith.com ^ | April 23, 2012 | Stuart H. Smith

Posted on 04/26/2012 10:36:15 PM PDT by Razzz42

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To: NoLibZone; Razzz42

NoLibZone, thanks for the links, but the links you provided are for bans in Mexican waters. razzz42, where are the links for bans for American waters, as claimed in this story?


41 posted on 04/27/2012 6:30:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Razzz42

much of the punatives were overturned on appeal.

The exxon case continues to work its way through the court system.


42 posted on 04/27/2012 6:40:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NoLibZone; antceecee; JSteff; sten; BfloGuy; ncalburt; Dusty Road; airborne; cricket; dirtboy

Here’s the official link to the Waters Closing to Commercial and Recreational Shrimping Effective 6AM, Monday, April 23, 2012

http://www.outdooralabama.com/fishing/saltwater/Shrimping.pdf

Now, it doesn’t say a shrimp boat was attacked and devoured by pissed off oil drenched shrimp or that a dad and his kid using a hand net from a row boat showed back up at the dock with a load of mutated shrimp blindly trying to escape.

Maybe the ambulance chasing lawyer is using his trade’s typical hyperbole as an excuse to glorify the findings of a few researchers or maybe the State Fish and Game is practicing conservation as exampled with the Mexicans using a moratorium during breeding season to allow some shrimp time to replenish themselves. Or maybe the State is investigating low shrimp count while searching for causes.

The Alabama Notice says you can call them for more details. The linked I posted to the supposed liberal freak show, names the researchers who have been tracking the Gulf’s sea life even before the Deep Water Horizon disaster.

If I have to rely on Russian TV or the UK or some other outside news source because I don’t want to listen to some past Senator that now lobbies for the oil industry, speaking on behalf of BP that is trying to take care of the situation, pardon me.


43 posted on 04/27/2012 11:56:39 AM PDT by Razzz42
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And here is the reason given in the .pdf:

Fishermen should be aware that state biologists will continue to sample in the areas to be opened. This closure is in response to routine shrimp sampling that indicated the average size were smaller than 68 head-on shrimp per pound. Should sampling indicate a change in the projected average size of 68 shrimp per pound, additional announcements will be provided to modify the original announcement.

Funny, no mention of mutant shrimp.

44 posted on 04/27/2012 12:01:03 PM PDT by dirtboy
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If I have to rely on Russian TV or the UK or some other outside news source because I don’t want to listen to some past Senator that now lobbies for the oil industry, speaking on behalf of BP that is trying to take care of the situation, pardon me.

As opposed to what? Your spewing this alarmist claptrap that has no basis in the reality of the reason for the closure? Your approach isn't any better than that of those you decry? Both are blowhards.

45 posted on 04/27/2012 12:05:08 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Funny dirtboy. You couldn’t even find a simple link to the closure. And then when somebody does your homework for you, you still complain. In fact, I beginning to think you are a constant whiner. Almost a professional whiner.

Did you want me to dig up the researcher’s reports on gulf sea life anomalies too? Or can you handle that on your own?

If I put on my tinfoil hat, I see the only thing can cause mutations in a short amount of time is, nuclear waste or fallout. I wonder if there is a nuke plant in the area leaking nuclear byproducts?


46 posted on 04/27/2012 12:54:34 PM PDT by Razzz42
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Motive: Al Jazeera wants to reduce U.S. energy production so that we become more dependent upon Middle east crude.


47 posted on 04/27/2012 1:07:25 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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Funny dirtboy. You couldn’t even find a simple link to the closure. And then when somebody does your homework for you, you still complain. In fact, I beginning to think you are a constant whiner. Almost a professional whiner.

I'm not the one posting from idiotic liberal websites such as Democracy Now! And from ambulance chaser websites. And guess what? You posted from a blog with no links to back up its claims (gee, I wonder why), it's YOUR job to find them when the story was challenged. And as it turns out, the claim on the blog was bogus - that the closure was due to deformities seen on shrimp.

So what you call whining I call vetting. Something you should do a lot more of, apparently.

48 posted on 04/27/2012 1:09:50 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Follow the links posted, you might learn something.

...Dr. Jim Cowan with Louisiana State University, and he’s been working on a project, getting his funding from the state of Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. And he’s been, actually, for many decades, sampling red snapper, which is a very popular fish in the industry. And he’s been finding that before the BP disaster in April 2010, that of all the red snapper he was sampling, he was finding point-one-tenth [0.1] of 1 percent snapper coming up with lesions and other types of problems. Post-spill, that has gone to between 2 and 5 percent of all samples. That means an increase of between 2,000 and 5,000 percent, and in some areas as much as 20 percent [a 20,000% increase], he said, in other areas who have extreme impact, where the oil and dispersants came in nearby the shore, of as many as 50 percent [a 50,000% increase] of fish sampled. Very, very disturbing information there...

...Dr. Darryl Felder with University of Louisiana-Lafayette, he also has before-and-after samples. He was working out around the Macondo wellhead area on the sea floor with a grant from the National Science Foundation, that they wanted him to investigate just overall drilling impact on species in the area. And so, he had deep sea crab, deep sea lobster, deep sea shrimp, from before the spill, and then many, many sampling trips after the spill. And what he found was obviously a very, very large increase of finding crab and lobster, etc., that had black gills, that had appendages falling off, again similar stains on their shells, and again similar to findings not too different from Dr. Jim Cowan’s, in that when the oil, that much unnatural oil introduced into the environment, coupled with the dispersants, that it’s causing these lesions that are burrowing into the carapace and the shells and eating into the wax of the shells, causing an increase in the microbes that do eat oil. Not only are they not eating just oil, but eating into the shells, and then parasites and diseases and other illnesses are being formed...


49 posted on 04/27/2012 1:29:39 PM PDT by Razzz42
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Here’s the official link to the Waters Closing to Commercial and Recreational Shrimping

Thanks for that additional link. The stated reason for the closing doesn't appear to be because of mutant or diseased sea life, though.

This closure is in response to routine shrimp sampling that indicated the average size were smaller than 68 head-on shrimp per pound. Should sampling indicate a change in the projected average size of 68 shrimp per pound, additional announcements will be provided to modify the original announcement.

That's certainly less inflammatory than the honorable Esquire's blog.

50 posted on 04/27/2012 2:59:19 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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Maybe this header at Drudge Report could explain it - or explain 'something'.

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/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135907/Giant-cannibal-shrimp-grow-13-INCHES-long-invade-waters-Gulf-Coast.html/

51 posted on 04/27/2012 3:03:05 PM PDT by cricket ( It is not just 'the economy' and Newt knows it. . .)
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Unlike the Mexican moratorium which lists the dates between where no shrimping is to take place, Alabama’s notice lists its closures as indefinite. Looks like they are trying to figure out what is wrong.


52 posted on 04/27/2012 3:55:03 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: cricket

You mean this link...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135907/Giant-cannibal-shrimp-grow-13-INCHES-long-invade-waters-Gulf-Coast.html


53 posted on 04/27/2012 5:10:50 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Doe Eyes

Oh look, it’s Doe Eyes again. This time making excuses for Wiki; last time denying media bias in the Trayvon case. Are you sure you didn’t get lost on your way to the DUmp?


54 posted on 04/27/2012 5:18:05 PM PDT by Yardstick
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This time making excuses for Wiki

Please, point out the errors in the wiki article.

55 posted on 04/27/2012 5:28:39 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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I’m not my job to fact check a Wiki article. But anybody who’s spent time at Wiki knows it has a leftward slant. Usually not in the form of outright falsehood but by omission, misplaced emphasis, and other subtle ways of shaping things to fit a liberal worldview. Of course as someone who thinks the media played it straight with their Trayvon reporting, you’re no doubt blind to this.


56 posted on 04/27/2012 5:51:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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I’m not my job to fact check a Wiki article.

It's ok little man. No one expected you to.

57 posted on 04/27/2012 6:32:27 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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Your angry defense of Wikipedia and the lib media is truly odd.


58 posted on 04/28/2012 5:34:28 AM PDT by Yardstick
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/you mean this link/.

Well thanks for making link - but actually, just meant what I said - making point by title of story. But for anyone who wants to know more - your link certainly saves a bit of finger trouble/effort.

59 posted on 04/28/2012 8:01:34 AM PDT by cricket ( It is not just 'the economy' and Newt knows it. . .)
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