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Michigan: 1,200 Hours To Be a Lawyer, But 2,000 To Be a Barber
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 4/23/2012 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 04/25/2012 5:31:39 AM PDT by MichCapCon

Lee McGrath says a lawyer must spend 1,200 hours in the classroom to be eligible to become an attorney in Michigan. Yet, to be a barber in Michigan, someone must spend 2,000 hours in training.

McGrath, the legislative counsel at The Institute for Justice, used that example to highlight how licensing laws in the state are job killers and increase costs to consumers.

“The important thing to realize is it is the licensees who benefit from licensure,” McGrath said. “They get to raise their prices from the reduced competition. Consumers benefit much more from a competitive marketplace.”

Rep. Tom McMillian, R-Rochester, introduced House Bill 5517 which would repeal all license mandates on barber school, barber colleges and barbers. McMillin said he got the idea for the bill after Gov. Rick Snyder mentioned in his 2012 State of the State address that there were laws regulating the size of barber shops’ garbage cans.

According to the state, the application fee is $75 and the licensing fee is $150 per year for a barber college.

For a barbers’ license, the state said the application fee is $20 and the licensing fee is $30. There are 4,959 barbers licensed in the state. The barber college license statute states that they must provide 250 hours of classroom study and 1,750 hours of practical barber training for barbers.

“When it gets right down to it, somebody has to answer this for me, ‘Why should the state license barbers?’ ” McMillin asks.

Michigan Barber School Director Darryl Green said he was “in shock” legislation could wipe out the licensee requirements.

“It does have a lot to do with public health,” Green said. “I’m not saying we are as important as doctors, but we are the closest you can get. We are turning this into the Wild, Wild West. It’s not important? OK. I’d like to see them get a haircut in a barber shop five years from now. It will be like rolling the dice.”

McGrath said health concerns are “always the pretext for maintaining an anti-competitive law supported by licensees.”

McMillin said no one is stopping barber shops from hiring barbers that complete 2,000 hours of training. He said those that don’t may suffer the consequences of poor service.

“It’s more of a buyer-beware,” McMillin said. “If they don’t like the way they cut their hair, you can go to another barber.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: licensing; michigan

1 posted on 04/25/2012 5:31:43 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: Springman; Sioux-san; 70th Division; JPG; PGalt; DuncanWaring

Personally I think I’d feel better letting a barber teach school.

If anyone wants to be added to the Michigan Cap Con ping list, let me know.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 5:35:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

Yeah, but barbers do something that’s useful.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 5:35:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: MichCapCon

1200 hours for your lawyer, 2000 hours for your barber, you get clipped either way.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 5:38:31 AM PDT by AU72
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To: MichCapCon

That’s because barbers actually perform an important public service.


5 posted on 04/25/2012 5:40:25 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: MichCapCon
“It does have a lot to do with public health,” Green said. “I’m not saying we are as important as doctors, but we are the closest you can get.

It doesn't take 2,000 hours of classroom time to get the information needed to protect public health. They don't actually treat diseases, they just cut hair.

6 posted on 04/25/2012 5:45:45 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: NonValueAdded
I don't know about anybody else but I always suspected that Floyd's basement walls were lined with shelves full of body parts in jars.

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The grandfather of one of my friends was a barber named Floyd as well but they called him Pete the Peeler.
7 posted on 04/25/2012 5:47:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paleo Conservative
They don't actually treat diseases, they just cut hair.

That wasn't always true. As I understand it, they used to effectively be ear nose and throat docs.

Barber history
8 posted on 04/25/2012 5:52:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paleo Conservative
It doesn't take 2,000 hours of classroom time to get the information needed to protect public health.

No it doesn't. Which is why Michigan only requires 250 hours of classroom time.

9 posted on 04/25/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: cripplecreek
I thought "Atom Heart Mother" was his best album .....


10 posted on 04/25/2012 5:57:11 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: MichCapCon

Considering that Holder and the Cretin-in-Chief are lawyers, it’s obvious that the standards for the bar have gone way, way, WAY down.

No wonder barbers are much more respected than lawyers.


11 posted on 04/25/2012 6:28:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MichCapCon

........which explains Debbie Wasserman-Schultz


12 posted on 04/25/2012 6:31:36 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: MichCapCon
“It does have a lot to do with public health,” Green said. “I’m not saying we are as important as doctors, but we are the closest you can get.

It takes at least 100 hours of training just for learning how to use a caladrius bird for diagnostics.

13 posted on 04/25/2012 6:34:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: cripplecreek

As opposed to lawyers, barbers have foregone the practice of blood letting.


14 posted on 04/25/2012 6:40:33 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: MichCapCon

I am almost 900 hours into completing my 1000 hour barber program in massachusetts and what I’m about to tell you you can take to the bank: the program is very demanding, believe it or not, because of the amount of time required and the absolute tedium of sitting around waiting for clients to walk into the clinic, and, therefore, it weeds out the kind of people you wouldn’t want working in the profession. I have never been around so many ex-cons, drug dealers, former pimps, wannabe gangstas, drug addicts and various other bottom feeders in my life. I don’t know why the profession attracts that element, but, without licensing requirements, there’s a very good chance that that’s what you’d be getting as your barber. Oh, if any of you gentlemen are in the market for a new (Classy) barber in Hingham Mass starting in June please send me a private message


15 posted on 04/25/2012 7:03:20 AM PDT by wally-balls
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To: MichCapCon

Even clinical social workers are required to have a Master’s plus over 2,000 hours clinical experience and supervision.

Lawyers are nothing but specialized clerks.


16 posted on 04/25/2012 7:20:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it ain't Newt, we're screwt !)
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To: MichCapCon

My barber has a lot more common sense than most lawyers I know. This makes sense to me.


17 posted on 04/25/2012 7:24:38 AM PDT by RedElement
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To: KarlInOhio

Gran Torino barbershop scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXD8yOxIPB0


18 posted on 04/25/2012 7:34:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

I have always ranked lawyers lower than prostitutes. After being screwed by both professions, at least the prostitutes’ clients should be happy.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 10:00:52 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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