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Peter Grandich--We Told You So-Gold and Silver Get Raided--04.Apr.2012
The Financial Survival Network ^ | 04/04/2012 | Kerry Lutz

Posted on 04/04/2012 8:26:23 AM PDT by appeal2

Last week Peter Grandich and I made the call that this week the precious metals markets would get hammered. We noticed that holiday weeks usually bring thinly traded markets, which are ripe for manipulation and elitist raids. No sooner did we post the interview from Thurs. 3/29, then wham! The precious metals markets are behaving like Paul Volcker was just appointed Chairman of the Fed. Don't get us wrong, Bernanke is no Volcker, but this, like everything in life, is temporary...nothing has changed!

Listen to the Interview Here


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: gold; goldsilver; kerrylutz; petergrandich; silver

1 posted on 04/04/2012 8:26:34 AM PDT by appeal2
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To: appeal2

Only a fool invests in precious metals. Gold and silver are a hedge and not an investment. You buy gold and silver for the same reasons you buy fire extinguishers, guns, and ammunition.

You buy them because you might need them, not because you plan on selling them someday.


2 posted on 04/04/2012 8:59:21 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: appeal2

So why are those “we buy gold” people still standing on the street corners?


3 posted on 04/04/2012 9:07:24 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: appeal2

Yeah, how silly to buy PMs when there are all those perfectly sound fiat currencies to invest in and that sound stock market that is such an accurate reflection and predictor of the economy.


4 posted on 04/04/2012 9:09:34 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Ron Paul is the Lyndon Larouche of the 21st century.))
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To: MeganC

“You buy them because you might need them, not because you plan on selling them someday.

You sure about that? People make plenty money selling PMs. I did/do.


5 posted on 04/04/2012 9:12:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: MeganC
You're right and I guess he hasn't heard about death and taxes when he makes the statement, "but this, like everything in life, is temporary..."

Also, he's discounting the fact that government spending and currency devaluation will only increase at an ever accelerating rate.

6 posted on 04/04/2012 9:12:57 AM PDT by Errant
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To: appeal2
The paper market in PMs goes up and down in a range: the lower bound of this range is set by massive sovereign bids for physical metal.

The paper manipulators are careful not to short the price down into this area, or they would end up selling literal tons of Gold which they simply do not possess.

Physical PMs are a terrific investment. The paper 'froth' on top of it - however - is a dangerous, fraudulent trading environment. Buy your PMs of choice and keep them close: but don't bother trading the paper versions.

7 posted on 04/04/2012 9:14:46 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: CodeToad

SLW is a buy, right here right now.


8 posted on 04/04/2012 9:19:27 AM PDT by BipolarBob (If I had a son who jacked jewelry and dealt drugs, he would've looked like Trayvon.)
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To: MeganC

You buy gold and silver for the same reasons you buy fire extinguishers, guns, and ammunition.

I wish my wife was more into the latter and not the former. ;-)


9 posted on 04/04/2012 9:21:54 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: MeganC

I own all of what you used as an example...fire extinguishers, guns, and ammo...but I own those for different reasons than I buy precious metals. I make money with precious metals...gold is perhaps one of the safest investments one can make...the consumer demand for gold has out paced the new supply of gold for over a decade..that alone makes it a good investment.

Of course there are times to sell and the re-buy but precious metals are great to invest in...and easy.


10 posted on 04/04/2012 9:25:34 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: appeal2

I knew when I got three calls from bullion dealers yesterday that danger was approaching. I sold 1/3rd my gold at $1750, think we could see sub-1600.

I’m just sitting and waiting for now. Usually right at the start of the year or later in the year is the weaker time, better time to buy.


11 posted on 04/04/2012 9:36:10 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I will buy all you sell!


12 posted on 04/04/2012 9:38:59 AM PDT by man from mars
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I will buy all you sell!


13 posted on 04/04/2012 9:39:19 AM PDT by man from mars
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To: MeganC

I just checked Coinflation.com. Silver’s not getting hammered. It’s still in the $31 range.

I agree though. I’ve bought nothing but junk silver (and a dozen silver eagle proofs I got cheap). I’ve never sold a single coin.

I get them to eventually spend, not sell.


14 posted on 04/04/2012 9:39:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: man from mars

Ehhh. You shouldn’t, really. You don’t know me. The stuff is not rare, all you have to do is pay for it. There are dozens and dozens of bullion dealers, they are in general phenomenally reliable.

I believe it is a mistake for “acquirers” of silver/gold to NEVER sell any. You never know what the mechanics of selling are if you never sell. It is a PITA.

I also believe that silver needs to spend at least 2 more years above $30 to prove it can hold $30. That’s just my belief. That is the long term nature of silver. Silver really only left $10 behind in 2009 and spent 1/3rd of 2008 under $10. This is rarefied territory for silver. (I’ve only collected silver since 1965 so maybe I am a complete idiot with my views)

Further on down the line, I think these metals will do well in terms of dollars, and I will probably never be all the way out of them. But I also believe that green cash dollars will be able to buy some very serious assets very cheaply in a severe deflation. Which I don’t think is over.


15 posted on 04/04/2012 9:55:42 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: appeal2

Have no fear. If the April close is below the June of last year close, go to cash. Move forward each month.

If a sell is triggered, chances are it will be a whipsaw and you’ll have an opportunity cost as you buy back at a slightly higher price the following month.

But there’s a 20% chance or so that you’ll avoid the big drop and be able to buy back at a 50% discount in a couple of years. The black swan effect.

This presumes you are in something liquid like futures or GLD ETF. This may not work on physical metal if the transaction is costly.


16 posted on 04/04/2012 9:57:20 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: appeal2
A couple of interesting charts:


17 posted on 04/04/2012 2:11:38 PM PDT by Errant
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