[Standing Wolf]

I'm with you, precisionshootist, except for the constitutional convention. If the Bill of Rights were put to a vote today, I'd be very surprised if much of it would survive. There are parts of the Constitution, such as the so-called "commerce clause" and absence of term limits, that need to be amended; the looter class, however, is vehemently opposed to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms, and equally vehemently insistent upon an imaginary "right" to the fruits of other people's labor.

[Stanwood_Dave]

Sorry but it is 3:10 A.M., I replied to myself, the follow up question to you precisionshootist is:

Yes I know that when a motion is made, that someone has to “second said motion,” then a vote of the motion yeas & nay’s, for the purpose of this discussion, the yeas won, i.e., to go off the track's of the agreed to in advance, limited in scope, Constitution Convention.

What is to stop said happening?