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To: JLS
If you start beating on someone, there is always the danger they are armed. Deterring violent attacks on people is one of the pluses of the right to bear arms. So my advice to you would be if a strange person is following you and they make you nervous, get to a well lit area with other people around. Attacking them is risky business. Ultimately whether Zimmerman is in the wrong or not depends on whether or not he was attacked by Martin. If Martin attacked him first and was in fact smashing Zimmerman’s head into concrete, the what was Zimmerman suppose to do? If Zimmerman attacked Martin or physically tried to detain him, then the situation is certainly different. So far the police think the evidence points to Zimmerman being attacked including apparently an eye witness.

I agree with most of your post, and especially the bolded part. I think you're right that if Martin attacked him first then Zimmerman is entitled to claim self defense. However, the eye witness only saw that Martin was winning the fight. As far as I know, he did not see who started it. It's certainly possible that Zimmerman started something he couldn't finish.

I think this comes down to Zimmerman's credibility, which is best assessed by a jury of his peers that actually gets to hear what he has to say.

And even if Martin struck first I still think the attacks on his character are completely gratuitous. A lot of people in that situation would strike first.

77 posted on 03/26/2012 11:57:47 PM PDT by FreeFromWhat
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To: FreeFromWhat
And even if Martin struck first I still think the attacks on his character are completely gratuitous. A lot of people in that situation would strike first.

Really? You would just up and coldcock somebody because they were watching you? Maybe you need an anger management class or something.

80 posted on 03/27/2012 12:09:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: FreeFromWhat

Well, if a lot of people in that situation would strike first, then a lot of people deserve to get shot. End of story.

You can’t deliver an unprovoked beating on somebody who has been following you just because you don’t like the looks of them.

Well, I guess you can, but if you end up shot then you get what you deserve.


87 posted on 03/27/2012 12:15:50 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: FreeFromWhat

“And even if Martin struck first I still think the attacks on his character are completely gratuitous. A lot of people in that situation would strike first.”

That is because you foolishly think this is about Martin and justice. This is as I said in another post about ginning up the base and keeping political power. The people doing this are merely using Martin. They care not a whit about him. In that battle, who Martin really is matters. They are implying he was this nice kid attack by an evil white guy. So the truth about who Martin is matters in this public discourse.

Now if we end up on a jury together deciding this case, nothing about either Martin’s or Zimmerman’s past matters. All that matters is the evidence. But we are not in that courtroom now. The political theatre is important too.


88 posted on 03/27/2012 12:17:21 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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