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To: muawiyah
All the Nazis had to do was run Weimar nonsense into the ground, which they did!

True enough. It was simply the Fox/Piven plan before there was a Fox/Piven. Collapse the system under its own weight to intensify the suffering so the people go seeking a savior and the nazis provided the answers they wanted to hear.
15 posted on 02/19/2012 6:20:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
The Germans put the Nazis in prison. Check the timelines. Other than a handful of murders the Nazis appeared to be about as meaningful as "Occupy......" or ACORN.

What really weighted down German society at the time wasn't even inflation but the forced reparations. What that meant was that no small businessman whose livelihood depended on an export business could ever make a profit ~ and here we're not talking about big time world class exports but things as simple as selling a pail of milk to a neighboring valley in France that'd been buying it for the last 1000 years to make cheese.

Those people were ripe for the Nazi takeover that came AFTER Hitler had personally taken over and disbanded the SA (the SA were the marching morons in the streets ~ mostly unemployed young men with nothing to do and having an inordinate interest in tan uniforms and red armbands).

Hitler solved their unemployment problems and infiltrated them into the existing army, albeit not as a formal "army" since that would violate the Allied restrictions on German rearmament.

He had some smart guys behind him ~ like Mitt and the Mitbots ~ not like Obama and the Obots. If anything Obama is more like Ernst Röhm who was later executed by Hitler.

24 posted on 02/19/2012 6:41:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
The initial article we are discussing so strays from historic accuracy I'll have to say it's more like propaganda than anything else.

Otto von Bismarck (a 19th century German politician) is viewed more correctly as the individual most responsible for the development of German social security, disability insurance and medical insurance (for the broad masses).

Lots of the things that run counter to Conservative thought and interest occurred in Germany long before Hitler. If you want to use those things in a debate as examples of inappropriate government intrusion into what should be private activity that's OK, but you can't credit Hitler with every darned thing.

If you want to find the roots of modern government financial misbehavior you might well look to Abraham Lincoln and the Credit Moblier! There you are, a former railroad lawyer is now President and what is he doing? Well, he's shoveling government money to guys who build railroads. Johnson and then Grant followed up on that.

30 posted on 02/19/2012 6:53:12 AM PST by muawiyah
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