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1 posted on 02/03/2012 2:19:46 PM PST by GregNH
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IOW the judge followed existing law PROVIDED the defendant was born in a state (or protectorate exception) of the USA.

This is just affirming there are only two types of citizens not three. Now the plaintiff is free to appeal.

Is this another Orly Tatz case?


90 posted on 02/03/2012 2:59:07 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GregNH

It appears somebody made the judge an offer that he couldn’t refuse.


92 posted on 02/03/2012 3:00:42 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: GregNH

Law of the jungle applies now. Every man for himself.


94 posted on 02/03/2012 3:02:07 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: GregNH

Here is another about natural born citizen released on November 14, 2011. The source agency is the Congressional Research Service.

http://www.legistorm.com/score_crs/show/id/82388.html

One thing it says “There is no provision in the Constitution and no controlling American case law to support a contention that the citizenship of one s parents governs the eligibility of a native born U.S. citizen to be President.”

I haven’t read as much as others here, but I thought I would bring this article to attention.

The argument is jus soli.


98 posted on 02/03/2012 3:03:08 PM PST by moviefan8
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It is a perfect description of tyranny. It doesn't matter what the facts are, the dictator's position is always right no matter how outrageous his actions may be. The judge manipulated the facts to reach his preconceived objective. Even when you default, you win.
99 posted on 02/03/2012 3:03:48 PM PST by iontheball
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Can you imagine ANY of these judges standing before the Founding Fathers and pulling this crap?

I can’t.

Shame on them. Shame.


107 posted on 02/03/2012 3:09:03 PM PST by Smokeyblue (Obama's got NBC problems and birth certificate problems - a bad case of Cluster F**ked.)
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To: GregNH

Dissappointed but not surprised.

Obama and his lawyer knew this all of the time. The fix was in. That’s why they didn’t show up.

It will be 50 years before history shows us the truth.


114 posted on 02/03/2012 3:12:14 PM PST by Venturer
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The only good that might come out of this is to convince more people, especially here on FR, what I have known for a long time. The courts in this country are not there to administer justice, they are there to protect politicians, at least those who have the “D” after their name. You won't get justice from the courts. The only thing they do is protect their power base (’Rat politicians), and the voters who put them in power (minorities and other “oppressed” groups).
117 posted on 02/03/2012 3:15:02 PM PST by chimera
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How. Does. The. Judge. Know. Where. He. Was Born?

Did he see an original document?...

Or some scan from the interwebs?


126 posted on 02/03/2012 3:22:03 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: GregNH

obama will not be voted out. Even if the unemployment numbers don’t look good, his propaganda media will make it look good. Or they will manufacture some crisis and derail the election if it looks like obama is losing the race!

The only way is for the candidates to expose his ineligibility and prosecute him!

This is the last straw!
The GA judge just rules that he is nbc because he is born in Hawaii!
Never mind his bc is proven to be fake, never mind authenticating it! obozo intimidates all of them. They will never do the right thing! There is no way out except to have the candidates exposing him. Romney, Gingrich, Santorum need to gang up on Obama and challenge him in public to prove that he was born to 2 US citizens or get out of the WH!

We need to yell out to them at their campaign stops to demand that they expose obama’s ineligibility! There is no time to waste!

This election is just for show!
GOP couldn’t care less if they win. Or they won’t push Romney!
If Romney really wants to be president so badly he can do it very easily by exposing obama! He will get our undying love too if he does that!

We the people are so stupid and timid. We are just taking it from the criminal in the WH. We have exhausted all means. We cannot rely on the justice system to remove the criminal in the WH. We need to have a ‘velvet revolution’!

Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, if you truly are the leaders, lead us in removing the usurper!


139 posted on 02/03/2012 3:29:55 PM PST by chrisnj
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I have heard this as well from a different source.


142 posted on 02/03/2012 3:30:31 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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bologna sandwich


144 posted on 02/03/2012 3:31:33 PM PST by tutstar (Want pings to Aaron Klein articles and OWS nonsense?)
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To: GregNH

Does this mean that the next president will not be appointing Orly Taitz to the SCOTUS?


155 posted on 02/03/2012 3:37:18 PM PST by trumandogz
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How can Judge Malihi both dismiss the Plaintiff’s exhibits for their failure to follow standard rules of evidence, and rely on that same material to assert that Obama was born in Hawaii? The “birth certificate” introduced was stated to be a copy of a false document, purportedly pulled off the internet, as evidence of forgery. It lacked any semblance of an official seal or chain of custody that would allow the court to rely upon it as a credible birth document. Malihi’s opinion depends on his assumption that Obama was born in the US. Where was valid evidence of this presented to his court? (Though two Plaintiff’s foolishly stipulated to this “fact” sans evidence in an attempt to be clever, the attorney in the third case did not, which means it would have to be proved in court). But as many suspected all along, you can’t beat a rigged game.

Taking this country back is going to be hard work indeed.


170 posted on 02/03/2012 3:47:35 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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I guess this means the check cleared.


173 posted on 02/03/2012 3:51:59 PM PST by SpaceBar
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In reading Malihi’s ruling, he appears to be explaining that Ms Taitz failed to “Daubert qualify” her expert witnesses. Without Daubert rules compliance, testimony and evidence offered by expert witnesses can’t be considered to be a finding of fact by a trier of fact. I was introduced to the Daubert rules during my Texas child custody jury trial in 2001 (I won after 19 hours of deliberation) right after the SCOTUS ruling establishing the Daubert standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daubert_standard

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In 2000, Rule 702 was amended in an attempt to codify and structure elements embodied in the “Daubert trilogy.” The rule now reads as follows:

Rule 702. Testimony by Experts
If scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will assist the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue, a witness qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education, may testify thereto in the form of an opinion or otherwise, if (1) the testimony is based upon sufficient facts or data, (2) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods, and (3) the witness has applied the principles and methods reliably to the facts of the case.
(As amended Apr. 17, 2000, eff. Dec. 1, 2000.)


176 posted on 02/03/2012 3:54:01 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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All hope is lost. May I never visit an eligibility thread again. I’m glad I didn’t contribute any money to the cause, but I’m frustrated with myself for burning so much time on it.

It is now a settled matter (not justly, but settled), and no court in the country will reverse that course.

Those here and elsewhere who claim that there is still unpublished evidence out there against Obama held by people who are just waiting for the right moment, are either cruelly wrong or they hate this country and justice as much as any of Obama’s apologists. The moment has slipped away.


182 posted on 02/03/2012 3:56:50 PM PST by ecinkc (ugh)
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This is why I stopped paying attention to these birther lawsuits. Regardless of merit, it ain’t gonna happen. It’s like Charlie Brown thinking this time Lucy won’t pull away the football.


192 posted on 02/03/2012 4:01:33 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Spotsy; ..

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201 posted on 02/03/2012 4:19:35 PM PST by bitt (Socialism works great until you run out of Chinese money.)
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Gingrich has pledged that he will clean up the judicial system. Here is a chance for him to show he means it -

In GA, obama shows utter contempt to the court in the ballot access challenge. He failed to show up as ordered. He went around the court to pressure the SOS!

This is a nation of laws. NO ONE is above the law. Obama has been utterly contemptuous towards our laws!

Gingrich must blast obama’s lawlessness! If he is too cowardly to hold obama to his lawlessness he is not serious about revamping the justice system!

Please write to Gingrich. All he has to do is, at the next debate, cite the fact that obama shows utter contempt to the court by not showing up as summoned on 1/26/12 to show why he should have access to the GA ballot.
NO president has ever shown such contempt for the court/law!

Gingrich will get standing ovation for doing that! And shock them all!!!


205 posted on 02/03/2012 4:22:00 PM PST by chrisnj
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