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To: Razzz42

So many inaccuracies, so little time.

Brazilian ethanol isn’t “sugar based” - it is cane based. All fermentation of ethanol starts from sugar(s). Corn has sugars, as do other grains. When barley is malted to make whiskey, they’re doing it to gain access to the sugars.

Next, the import tariff wasn’t renewed, that is true. But there never was a subsidy for corn growers to produce ethanol. The subsidy was a “blenders’ credit,” which when to the oil companies to blend ethanol into the gasoline.

Lastly, as long as the spread between gasoline rack prices and corn’s near-term contracts remains profitable for the ethanol producers and the oil companies, corn will continue to be used to make ethanol. Brazil can’t export enough ethanol to the US to eliminate the corn market. The corn based ethanol market is now viable without the blenders’ credit.


2 posted on 01/16/2012 11:00:51 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
I think you are missing the point, the tariff prevented competition and caused higher grain prices, Brazil adjusted it acreage output according to lobby manipulated US tariff policy. Brazil's cane and beet based ethanol contains less water content than corn based which corn based has a tendency to ruin engines. But from the article below it looks like Brazil was not anticipating dropping the tariff to point of having to import ethanol from the US and now has to gear up production which they are certainly capable of doing. (Like Venezuela, countries have the raw materials but lack expertise in refining) Brazil gives big sweetener for sugar ethanol industry
3 posted on 01/16/2012 11:23:49 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: NVDave; Razzz42

IMHO, I’d like you to to continue the discussion. I know doodly squat about this whole shebang and I think I could learn more from you.

My only previous statement: You don’t make fuel from food.

Am I wrong ?


4 posted on 01/17/2012 12:09:13 AM PST by onona (FR is continuing education)
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To: NVDave
Even more importantly and not understood is the economic impact of keeping the USD at home, and a second benfit against the world that votes against the United States in lock step at the United Nations has to now decide if they hate us ("US) for feeding them or hate us because we decry OPECS oil pricing that caused the major damage to the West.

By keeping food off the world markets, the Arab Spring/Nightmare exploded because the corrupt Oil Shekdom's did not do anything to provide a living wage to their populations.

MORE ETHONAL, LESS FOOD FOR THE WORLD; LET THEM POUND SAND AND DRINK OPECS OIL.

6 posted on 01/17/2012 5:12:55 AM PST by Jumper
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