Liar.
"For example, you spent almost all of last year using Rossi's lie that he was going to (or already did) allow independent testing of his gadget as "evidence" that he must be legitimate."
Another lie. I've responded to this point repeatedly, and you still lie about it. One more time....when I made the statement, the best information ANYBODY had (and that many others indicated as well) was that Rossi planned to allow such testing. And in fact, he has, as recently as this week, stated that he still plans to collaborate with the U of B, and hopes to get that started in a couple of months.
"That you are trying to "belittle" the oldest and best-selling newspaper in Italy just because you don't like the stories they covered over more than a decade shows how desperate you are to avoid the facts."
I know squat about newspapers in Italy. For all I know your source could be the Italian equivalent to the US supermarket tabloids with pictures of aliens on the cover. And being old and popular does not preclude the possibility that they present slanted coverage based on "guidance" from influential stockholders. Y'know, kinda like the AP does when their Saudi owners crack the whip. And for that matter, your mere statement that they are "oldest and best-selling" isn't proof that they are such.
"Oh, please! It's not the fault of skeptics that no one has been able to make LENR work well enough to make it more than a research oddity. It's the two-decade-long failure of the LENR researchers to actually make it work. And rather than accept their failure, you and the fanboys simply find some conspiracy or another to blame."
"Oh Please" nothing. It's funny that you can spend huge amounts of time pursuing Rossi's activities, and can't be bothered to actually find out the truth about the treatment of CF researchers. And since you actually make the above statement, it's also obvious that you have read precisely zero of the many hundreds of publications and conference proceedings available. The tech has been replicated repeatedly, and yet you and the other skeptopaths repeat the same old crap...."it ain't real", "there's no data", all the while denying tenure, grant funding, promotions, and more to those who actually scrape up a bit of money to actually do real science. As opposed the the FRAUD committed by MIT and thoroughly documented by Gene Mallove.
Since you like Krivit so much, read the material on the above subject on his website....it's there.
I just finished reading 385 pages of conference proceedings of the "Proceedings of 15th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science", which contains many excellent scientific papers, both theoretical and experimental, which show conclusively the truth of LANR.
Many hundreds of similar papers can be found in the "Library" section of LENR-CANR.ORG.
But you just "can't be bothered" to look at them.
And you just "blow off" ALL of that evidence.
There's a phrase for folks like that....."willful ignorance".
"Please tell us what scenarios would make you change your mind? For example, if no independent confirmation that the E-Cat works has been produced in a year, will that be enough for you to admit that Rossi is a fraud? Five years? Ever?"
"Tell us?" Did you suddenly get a royal title?? Or do you have "mulitple personality syndrome". I'd say my own personal time frame would be the end of this year. I don't deal in "scenarios". I constantly evaluate the facts and adjust accordingly.
"Or are you so blindly devoted to Rossi that there is no scenario that would convince you that you were wrong?"
Look, jackass . I've told you at least a dozen times, I have NO INTEREST in any kind of "devotion" to Rossi. I could care less about Rossi. But the best evidence available is that his TECHNOLOGY is real. Once again...I have the scientific background to make that judgement. You don't. And I simply don't buy the idea that Rossi has come up with as many different ways to fake the data as all the different tests that have been run with all the different WELL qualified witnesses that were present. That meme is simply ridiculous, and so unlikely as to be impossible.
Liar.That's funny, coming from a Rossi shill.
One more time....when I made the statement, the best information ANYBODY had (and that many others indicated as well) was that Rossi planned to allow such testing.Rossi knew better. He lied about it to claim undeserved credibility from the U of B.
And while I'm sure you were gullible enough to believe Rossi, you spent that time using it as the core of your argument that Rossi must be legitimate, because if he wasn't, he wouldn't allow the U of B to do their testing.
Now that the lie is exposed, you act incredulous about it, as though no one could have seen it coming. In reality, everyone with a brain saw it coming. It's only the gullible Rossi fanboys who seem to have trouble accepting the fact that Rossi is lying his way through this farce.
And in fact, he has, as recently as this week, stated that he still plans to collaborate with the U of B, and hopes to get that started in a couple of months.WOW! Just WOW! Rossi lies about it again and you believe him again. That is a new record for gullibility!
You should know that the U of B stated when Rossi first blew them off that their contract had a deadline, which has either already passed or is about to.
My guess is that Rossi is waiting until the contract has expired, and then step forward with an insincere offer to let them test it. When they properly tell him to go pound sand, he will claim that they are persecuting him and trying to "suppress" his work.
I know squat about newspapers in Italy.Congratulations! You've invented a whole new logical fallacy. I've heard of "argument by authority" (which you are fine with when the "authority" happens to support your side, as in the anonymous "NATO Colonel" working for the anonymous customer).
But you have invented the "Argument by ignorance" fallacy. Since you "know squat" about something, you therefore feel justified in ignoring it.
I just finished reading 385 pages of conference proceedings of the "Proceedings of 15th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science", which contains many excellent scientific papers, both theoretical and experimental, which show conclusively the truth of LANR.As I've stated repeatedly, I'm arguing about the validity of LENR in general. Just the fact that Rossi is a con man who has decided to use LENR as the background for his scam.
And, as we continue to go for month after month where there is nothing but unsubstantiated claims from Rossi, and no signs of an actual, working E-Cat anywhere, I'll be here to rub your nose in it.