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An Ex-Muslim's Letter to the Critics of Pamela Geller
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 1/5/12 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 01/05/2012 2:38:56 PM PST by Nachum

An Ex-Muslim's Letter to the Critics of Pamela Geller

This letter was sent to me from an apostate living in Europe. He has asked me to publish it.

Dear Pamela,

The more I go through the online videos of your media interventions, the more I am astonished by the way many Americans attack you.

Being an ex-muslim — ie: a European who converted to Islam in his youth, who lived in the muslim ummah, travelled and studied in depth Arabic and islamic jurisprudence — your arguments are very clear to me, whilst the arguments of your critics fail to make any sense to me.

To be sure, there are many points on which you and I would disagree — that is, strongly disagree — but this is exactly the reason why I think that you are one of the very few interlocutors I could speak with to share my personal experience — others would be Robert Spencer and Horowitz.

Of course, having been a muslim for so long I can't avoid looking at these issue from both a muslim perspective and a westerner perspective. Almost three decades of islamic faithful devotion don't disappear just because I've left Islam — I can still think like a muslim and analyze problems from an islamic perspective. On the other hand, my European upbringing is something that has never left me, that wasn't wiped away only because I embraced Islam.

Today I can say that my life experience has led me to a new perspective which manages to gain lessons from all that I've learned and went through. This is why I've embraced libertarianism; and, as many libertarian thinkers pointed out, libertarianism can be seen as a kind of religion because it rises the values of freedom

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: critics; exmuslims; geller; letter

1 posted on 01/05/2012 2:38:57 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

She was hot as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
These days, she looks kind of rough.


2 posted on 01/05/2012 2:40:40 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Nachum

bump


3 posted on 01/05/2012 2:45:35 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: humblegunner
These days, she looks kind of rough.

Attractive enough, I suppose (not guilty for sure):


4 posted on 01/05/2012 2:55:47 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: Nachum

The writer’s description of Muslim society and the concentric circles of intelligence was very interesting.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 2:59:20 PM PST by PGR88 (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: freedumb2003

Not Guilty in a cougar-style sense!


6 posted on 01/05/2012 3:20:44 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Nachum

ping


7 posted on 01/05/2012 3:28:34 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Nachum

I gotta admit, I am somewhat surprised she hasnt already been detained for questioning by now. We are nearing the end of Obama’s first term, after all.


8 posted on 01/05/2012 3:31:25 PM PST by emax
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To: humblegunner

She looks pretty damned good considering the Herculean task she undertakes on a daily basis.

And, when she’s 103, she’ll be beautiful for the Herculean task she undertakes on a daily basis.


9 posted on 01/05/2012 4:26:23 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

Oops. I was referring to Sarah Michelle Geller.

Not her little sister Pam.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 4:30:44 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner
These days, she looks kind of rough.

For somebody who's 53, she looks damn good!

11 posted on 01/05/2012 4:36:11 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Nachum; americanophile
Comments about Pam Geller's looks aside, this is a long, but VERY informative article, by an ex-Muslim who exposes a lot of the inner workings of the Muslim community.

Example:

In every classical manual for Qadis (judges) you'll find in the first chapters mention of the al-Muzakki as-Sirry (the secret "purifier"), which refers to the secret informats that each Islamic Judge has at his service. They are not scholars, even though often they are students of the Qadi, but more often they are just very honest laymen who the Judge can rely on to gather intelligence on the various witnesses and participants in the court case, so that he might have some insight into their social reputation and how reliable their witnessing is.

Islam is a religion which relies heavily on intel for its functioning. This is something that should be clear to anyone who reflects on how the science of hadith works. So, the scholars rely on intelligence to safeguard the teachings and to discern amongst their contemporary colleagues — to know who is sincere and who is corrupt. Then the government relies on intelligence because every government does. Which means that all the Jihad networks use community intelligence to protect themselves, to select people, to gain logistical support, ecc. This is common sense, yet most people never mention it because they fail to see how compact and military-style the muslim community is.

,,,

If you knew how tight is the intelligence network of the islamic communities around the globe, you'd shiver much more than you do when you learn about the existence of this or that jihad training camp — after all, any muslim who wants to learn military skills could just as well join the local army.

...

The islamic ummah is so well knitted that a religious student, or a scholar, can travel the world relying entirely on his muslim fellows, and do so without calling attention to himself. Those who are inside the circles of knlowdge can gather information on any other muslims at request. This is a fundamental function inside Islam. Whenever someone comes from abroad to deliver an islamic speech or a conference, the local scholars and students have the duty to gather information on this person: who is he? who did he study with? who does he give alliance to? and so on.

,,,

Muslims are outraged if we call "islamic terrorism" an act carried out by muslism who claim to be doing it in the name of islam and even back it up with islamic proofs. But when Pastor Jones burned a Quran the muslims accused the whole Western society for that "crime" — point is: Pastor Jones acted as an individual, and not with the mandate of the USA or the West. And, YES, even if I dislike what he did I defend his right to do it! I would never do it (as I would never burn a Bible either) but I should die to defend his right to do so. I believe in private property, so once he has aquired a printed copy of the Quran it is HIS book and he can do as he pleases with it. End of story.

I would recommend freepers concerned with Islam to read the whole article, as it contains many valuable "insider" insights.
12 posted on 01/06/2012 8:26:09 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks!


13 posted on 01/06/2012 12:03:35 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

Think you could do a ping to your Islam ping list?


14 posted on 01/07/2012 7:44:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: americanophile; Islaminaction; Kolokotronis; annalex; MahatmaGandu; NYer; La Lydia; AnalogReigns; ..
ISLAMIZATION PING LIST

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" - Quran 48:29

Infidels: freepmail me if you want on or off this list.

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets,
the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers."


15 posted on 01/07/2012 7:48:28 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

Goto memri.org and search for this

Antisemitic Banner Raised at Egyptian Soccer Game: “One Nation for New Holocaust”

Sick.


16 posted on 01/07/2012 8:02:05 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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