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To: metmom; A_perfect_lady; betty boop

” One does not move logically into faith. If you did, it wouldn’t be faith. I think believers would be much better off not trying to reason or argue atheists into anything. There’s no path from logic to faith.”

Spirited: Perfect Lady presumes both logic and reason that are only notable by their absence.

It is not reasonable to dissect a human body in expectation of ‘seeing’ its’ soul, and then on not ‘seeing’ it to declare its’ nonexistence. Nor is it reasonable to search man’s gray matter in expectation of ‘seeing’ scrolling words (thought, belief, reason, memory) and then on not ‘seeing’ them declare that mind does not exist. Such reasoning is irrational, illogical and very simply-—simpleminded.

Perfect lady chooses to reject her own soul based on this simplemindedness but not her mind and then expects us to view her as a logician. We do not.


140 posted on 01/07/2012 9:52:53 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
I do not expect to be viewed as a logician. I have very little interest in science, philosophy, or logic. I am telling you what I have observed and the conclusions I have come to. You are free to read it or not, agree or not, argue or not.

I have experienced my own mind. I have not experienced my own "soul." I have not seen anything in my human experience that is not accounted for by a basic understanding of biology, chemistry, and the phsyical laws of nature. But try to understand. It doesn't mean I am a keen student of biology, chemistry, or physics. It just means that the explanations they offer seem far more likely than anything any religion has offered. But it doesn't tempt me to emerse myself in any of them, which is why I do not argue with the names of great philosophers, and try not get into intricate discussions about logical procedure, scientific method, etc.

I do my best to explain why I think the way I do. I have everything figured out to my own satisfaction. I speak up occasionally on this topic only when atheist-bashing starts, or when people keep pinging me, not when religious people are arguing amongst themselves over the details of their belief systems.

142 posted on 01/07/2012 11:00:15 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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