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The Year We Lost Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Turkey, Tunisia and Most of the Middle East
Sultan Knish ^ | Saturday, December 31, 2011 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/01/2012 4:28:48 AM PST by expat1000

About the only people having a Happy New Year in the Muslim world aren't the Christians who are huddling and waiting out the storm, but the Islamists who use a different calendar but are having the best time of their lives since the last Caliphate.

The news that the Obama Administration has brought in genocidal Muslim Brotherhood honcho Yusuf Al-Qaradawi to discuss terms of surrender for the transfer of Afghanistan to the Taliban caps a year in which the Brotherhood and the Salafists are looking up carve up Egypt, the Islamists won Tunisia's elections, Turkey's Islamist AKP Party purged the last bastions of the secular opposition and Libya's future as an Islamist state was secured by American, British and French jets and special forces.

Time Magazine declared that 2011 was the Year of the Protester, they might have more honestly called it the Year of the Islamist. In 2010 the Taliban were still hiding in caves. In 2012 they are set to be in power from Tunisia to Afghanistan and from Egypt to Yemen. They won't go by that name of course. Most of them will have elaborate names with the words "Justice" or "Community" in them, but they will for the most part be minor variations on the Muslim Brotherhood theme.

2011 will indeed be remembered, but not because of any Arab Spring or OWS nonsense. It will be a pivotal year in the rise of the next Caliphate. A rise disguised by angry protesters waving cell phones and flags. And clueless media coverage that treated Tahrir Square as the new fall of the Berlin Wall.

This was the year that Obama helped topple several regimes that served as the obstacles to Islamist takeovers. The biggest fish that Ibn Hussein speared out of the sea for Al-Qaradawi was Egypt, a prize that the Islamists had wanted for the longest time, but had never managed to catch. That is until the Caliph-in-Chief got it for them. Egyptian Democracy splits the take between the Brotherhood and the Salafists, whom the media is already quick to describe as moderates. First up against the wall are the Christians. Second up against the wall are the Jews. Third up is all that military equipment we provided to the Egyptian military which will shortly be finding its way to various "moderate militants" who want to discuss our foreign policy with us.

But there's no reason to sell the fall of Tunisia short or the transition in Yemen. And when mob protests didn't work, NATO sent in the jets to pound Libya until Al-Qaeda got its way there. Turkey's fate had been written some time ago, but 2011 was the year that the AKP completed its death grip on the country with a final crackdown on the military, which has now ceased to be a force for stability.

Left out of the picture is Somalia. Liberals fulminated when Bush helped drive out Al-Shaab and its jolly Muslim lads with a habit of beheading people who didn't grow beards or watched too much soccer. Any number of editorials complained that we had destabilized the country and that the Islamic Courts Union were really a bunch of moderates in disguise.

Sadly Obama has not been able to salvage the position of Al-Shabab which is low on money and has turned to forcing 12 year old girls into prostitution and torturing and murdering those who refuse. They're also forcing the elderly to join its militias. But there is good news. Like every terrorist group, Al-Shabab has gotten itself a Twitter account and when O finds 5 minutes in between vacations and golf tournaments, the White House will order neighboring African countries to withdraw their armies and send in Al-Qaradawi to negotiate.

But even if the Islamists don't get Somalia, they've got a nice chunk of North Africa to chew over, not to mention a few more slices of the Middle-Eastern pie, and Afghanistan will be back in their hands as soon as they manage to outmaneuver Karzai, which given his paranoia and cunning may admittedly take a while. But the Taliban are not big on maneuvers, they have the manpower, which means it's only a matter of time until they do what the Mujaheddin did to the puppet Soviet regime. A history that everyone in the region is quite familiar with.

The ugliest part of this story isn't what Obama did. It's when he did it. If he really had no interest in winning Afghanistan, and if as he had said, the Taliban are not our enemy, then why did we stay for so long and lose so many lives fighting a war that the White House had no intention of winning? The ugly conclusion that must be drawn from the timing of the Iraq and Afghanistan withdrawals is that the wars were being played out to draw down around the time of the next election.

What that means is Obama sacrificed the thousands of Americans killed and wounded in the conflict as an election strategy. The idea that American soldiers were fighting and dying for no reason until the time when maximum political advantage could be gained from pulling them out is horrifying, it's a crime beyond redemption, an act worse than treason-- and yet there is no other rational conclusion to be drawn from the timetable.

If the Taliban were not our enemy, then the war should have ended shortly after the election. Instead Obama threw more soldiers into the mix while tying their hands with Rules of Engagement that prevented them from defending themselves or aggressively going after the Taliban. Casualties among US soldiers and Afghan civilians increased. Now the Taliban are no longer our enemy and we are negotiating a withdrawal.

There are only two possible explanations. Either we lost the war or Obama never intended to win it and was allowing the Taliban to murder American soldiers until the next election. If so we're not just looking at a bad man at the teleprompter, we are looking into the face of an evil so amoral that it defies description.

But whatever motives we may attribute to the Obama Administration the outcome of its policies in backing the Arab Spring with influence, training and even weapons is indisputable. What Carter did to Persia, Obama has done to Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan and that's not the whole of the list.

Iraq will likely fall to Iran in a bloody civil war, whether it will be parts of the country or the whole country depend on how much support we provide to the Kurds. Under the Obama Administration the level of support is likely to be none.

Once the Islamists firmly take power across North Africa they will begin squeezing the last states that have still not fallen. Last month the leader of the murderous Enhada Islamists who have taken power in Tunisia stopped by Algeria. Morocco has not yet come down, but at this rate it's only a matter of time.

Syria remains an open question. The Muslim Brotherhood is in a successor position there and would welcome our intervention against the Assad regime. The Assads are no prize and they're Iranian puppets, but shoving them out would give the Brotherhood yet another country and its sizable collection of weaponry.

All that is bound to make 2012 an ugly year in its own right, especially if the Obama Administration continues allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to control its foreign policy. For all that Time and other mainstream media outlets continue splashing the same protest pornography photos on every page, the region has become an indisputably worse place this year with the majority of moderate governments overthrown and replaced, or in the process of being replaced by Islamist thugs.

Carter can breathe a sigh of relief. In one year the Obama Administration has done far more damage than the bucktoothed buffoon did in his entire term. After 2011 we can look back with nostalgia on the days when all that an incompetent leftist in the White House did was lose one country, one canal and a bunch of hostages. Things have gotten so bad that we can safely say that Obama on a good day is worse than Jimmy Carter on a bad day.

Forget the usual end of the year roundups which focus on pop stars, dead celebrities and who wore what and when. None of that really matters. It didn't matter four years ago. It certainly doesn't matter now.

2011 was not the year that Steve Jobs died, it was the year that any hope that we were not headed for a violent collision of civilizations died as Western governments helped topple the few moderates and let the worst have their harvest of power.

Will that be considered a bad thing in the long run? It's hard to say. What Obama did was speed up the date of an inescapable conflict. A day when it will no longer be state-supported terrorists setting off bombs, but when much of the Muslim world will look like Iran and will openly declare that they are at war with us. That was almost certainly bound to happen anyway, but bringing the day forward by ten or twenty years means that we will be less weaker than we might have been when it happens.

Evil has a way of destroying itself, and in his own backward way, Barry Hussein may have helped save civilization. It will be a long time before we know for sure, but giving the Brotherhood what it wanted before they were ready for it, and before we are so completely crippled by the left's political correctness that we are left helpless, may be our best hope.

2011 was the year we lost Afghanistan, Egypt, Turkey, Tunisia and many others, but it should not be the year that we lose hope. For all that the bad guys have been gaining and domestic prospects don't look good, the bad guys have a way of destroying themselves. Give evil its head and it will kill millions, but it will also self-destruct in a spectacular way. Even when it seems as if we have run out of productive things to do, it is instructive to remember that there is a Higher Power in the destinies of men and that the aspirations of evil men to play at being gods eventually leads them to complete and utter ruin through their own arrogance.

But 2011 is also a reminder that the world cannot afford another year of Obama. That it cannot afford the appeasement, the destructive policies or the post-American politics that have made his regime the worst administration in this country's history. 2011 may be the year that we lost the Middle East, but let's work to make 2012 the year that this country loses one Barack Hussein Obama.


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1 posted on 01/01/2012 4:28:55 AM PST by expat1000
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2 posted on 01/01/2012 4:29:50 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

democrats ARE the enemy within

I defy anyone to prove otherwise


3 posted on 01/01/2012 5:06:46 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: expat1000

Obama’s gamble: make peace with the radicals who will then be overthrown through adoption of Western culture by the masses.

Who knows?


4 posted on 01/01/2012 5:08:29 AM PST by kjo
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To: kjo
Obama’s gamble: make peace with the radicals who will then be overthrown through adoption of Western culture by the masses.

Gamble? The Messiah hates America and gravitates naturally to the enemies of America. American soldiers are to be used as bloody props for his re election, too.

5 posted on 01/01/2012 5:13:00 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: kjo
Obama’s gamble: make peace with the radicals who will then be overthrown through adoption of Western culture by the masses.

I used to believe in that as a natural evolutionary solution to the scourge of Islam, but have changed my mind in the last few years. If it does happen, it'll take decades, I mean more than 2 - too much damage would be done in that time.

6 posted on 01/01/2012 5:17:34 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000
Heck we lost Iraq and Af-gan a long time ago; when our Compassionate Conservative RINO, W (albeit having been misled and given bad advice, but that does not excuse...) allowed both countries to form new governments with Islam/Sharia as their "Controlling Authorities."

That guaranteed that neither would ever be a true ally/friend and none of its people would ever enjoy and rights, liberties or freedoms.

Don't be surprised if by year's end, Iraq joins the other 56 Countries who make up the Organization of Islamic Conference (which in essence, also controls the UN) and becomes a strict Islamic Republic with all the repressive laws and mandates other such countries engage in.

7 posted on 01/01/2012 5:20:36 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: expat1000

The fact that the everyday Americans are morons to the point that they only bah bah and nod their head to the sound of ‘the news’ who tells them “THIS IS A GOOD THING!”

I just feel almost hopeless. Those of who KNEW how little was known about Obama (the much mocked ‘Birthers’ who might have gotten stuck one issue, also knew the more we dug, the scarier it got how little was known!) were derided for fearing he was yes, a TERRORIST.

I don’t have a doubt right now.


8 posted on 01/01/2012 5:32:00 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: expat1000
In 2010 the Taliban were still hiding in caves. In 2012 they are set to be in power from Tunisia to Afghanistan and from Egypt to Yemen. They won't go by that name of course. Most of them will have elaborate names with the words "Justice" or "Community" in them, but they will for the most part be minor variations on the Muslim Brotherhood theme.

So what? Look at the number of groups/organizations which have been formed by the Mooselimb Brotherhood right here in the good ol' U.S. of A., which are allowed to operate with impunity and spread their hateful, anti-American/Jewish, propaganda and diatribe (never mind the Saudi sponsored Madrassas and hundreds of Mosques) as they wage "Stealth Jihad" in an effort to overthrow from within, (and destroy) our Great Republic?

They include CAIR, Islamic Society of North America, the Muslim Student Association, the North American Islamic Trust, the Muslim Arab Youth Association and the International Institute of Islamic Thought

Worst yet, are the number of Islamists who have been welcomed into the highest levels of our Gubmint including (2 or 3) in the White House and who knows how many in the DOD, DHS, FBI and it would not surprise to find some in the CIA.

Boggles the mind and I'm betting Stalin is turning over in his grave as he marvels and regrets not making Communism a "Religion" when he sees how doing so would have allowed him to manage to destroy our country so easily (from within) as will happen in the near future if we don't wake up soon and smell the Jihad.

9 posted on 01/01/2012 5:35:53 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: expat1000

It was my thinking too, for awhile. But it’s become apparent IMO, especially now with the alarming aftermath of the Arab Spring, that Western culture is not at all an effective antibody against radical Islam.

Even in societies where they’ve been exposed to Western culture for decades, once the radicals come to power, it’s thrown off overnight.


10 posted on 01/01/2012 5:39:47 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: expat1000
we're not just looking at a bad man at the teleprompter, we are looking into the face of an evil so amoral that it defies description.

I am an American Soldier...defender of freedom against tyranny

and when I enter the valley of death

and the angel of Satan appears at my shoulder

I will be resolute and fear no evil

And my Lord in heaven will guide my sword.

11 posted on 01/01/2012 5:54:23 AM PST by spokeshave (Ron Paul finally lit a match after dousing himself with gasoline)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

The only way the US will avoid Sharia LAw is to cease to recognize Islam as a religion.


12 posted on 01/01/2012 5:55:07 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: expat1000

“There are only two possible explanations. Either we lost the war or Obama never intended to win it and was allowing the Taliban to murder American soldiers until the next election. If so we’re not just looking at a bad man at the teleprompter, we are looking into the face of an evil so amoral that it defies description.”


13 posted on 01/01/2012 5:58:39 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: expat1000
.then why did we stay for so long and lose so many lives fighting a war that the White House had no intention of winning? The ugly conclusion that must be drawn from the timing of the Iraq and Afghanistan withdrawals is that the wars were being played out to draw down around the time of the next election.

What that means is Obama sacrificed the thousands of Americans killed and wounded in the conflict as an election strategy. The idea that American soldiers were fighting and dying for no reason until the time when maximum political advantage could be gained from pulling them out is horrifying, it's a crime beyond redemption, an act worse than treason-- and yet there is no other rational conclusion to be drawn from the timetable.

And....Our very highest levels of military **know** that Obama posted birth certificate forgeries, that he has a fake social security number, fails e-verify, and has refused the most reasonable and polite requests to prove his natural born status. Is this how these glittering weenies defend the Constitution? Is this how they watch the backs of the honorable men and women serving under them? Is overlooking usurpation of the office of Commander in Chief, fraud, and lying now part of the military code of honor?

Then we have our so-called "conservative" talk host weenies. What loud mouths full of hot air. Some even cry over the Constitution. Where were they? Silent! Some had the audacity to tell us the Constiution is a "technicality" ( Mark Steyn) or that we were "cranks" ( Coulter).

Rush Limbaugh **brags** about the American flag that was given to him by American pilots now hanging on his living room? Unbelievable!

When these so called "patriots" face the families of these dead soldiers why doesn't God strike them with lightning?

I am disgusted.

14 posted on 01/01/2012 6:01:01 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: expat1000
The Islamic Caliphate didn't really get going until the Seljuk Turks crushed the Arabs. Other Turks followed on the same track and eventually turned the Arabs into slaves. Finally the Mongols solidified that pattern and it wasn't until the late 1800s that there were any "free Arabs" in the Middle East.

With the defeat of the Ottoman Empire all the Arabs achieved a state of liberty and well-being they hadn't seen in nearly a thousand years.

Alas, Arabs are never grateful, nor do they bless their benefactors. They are your basic unvarnished desert barbarian with only a patina of civilization.

We'll probably have to crush them again and return them to the slavery they seemed to be so happy to have imposed on them.

15 posted on 01/01/2012 6:21:53 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Stepan12
Agree...

As we know...

“This March 3, 2007, New York Times piece offers great insight into the issue.

In foreign policy as well, Mr. Obama would bring to the White House an important experience that most other candidates lack: he has actually lived abroad. He spent four years as a child in Indonesia and attended schools in the Indonesian language, which he still speaks.

“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office... He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated, Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.””

16 posted on 01/01/2012 6:24:53 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: RedEyeJack

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated, Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.””

Along with a bowel movement.


17 posted on 01/01/2012 6:39:36 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: RedEyeJack

The enemy is INSIDE the gates......
MANNING the ramparts.............
AND...
Running the show.
While...
Our Military “Leadership” doesn’t give a damn.

God help us all.


18 posted on 01/01/2012 6:39:55 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voting--let out dead rest in peace.)
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To: expat1000

“We” did not possess those places, we could not “lose” them.

I have been an advocate FOR possessing those places through conquest and reconstruction, so I think your heart’s in the right place - but we never took the steps necessary for possession, so it’s wrong to speak of “losing” them.


19 posted on 01/01/2012 6:59:43 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: autumnraine
the much mocked ‘Birthers’ who might have gotten stuck one issue, also knew the more we dug, the scarier it got how little was known!) were derided for fearing he was yes, a TERRORIST.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We were called “cranks”. Yeah! I guess we were cranky about trashing the Constitution. We were told we were silly. We were told to focus on Obama’s policies, and his communist friends. We were told that Article 2 Section 1 was a technicality. And there was also deafening **silence** from those who claim to love the Constitution. There were the many calls that the “call screeners” refused to pass through to the talk show hosts, and the blocked e-mails.

I do not listen to talk radio any more. It's what they don't talk about that makes me sick. Gee! And...Rush Limbaugh brags about the American Flag on his living room wall that was given to him by U.S. pilots.

Pass me the barf bag, please.

20 posted on 01/01/2012 7:00:33 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Flintlock
Our Military “Leadership” doesn’t give a damn.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They give a damn about the perks and pensions.

21 posted on 01/01/2012 7:01:48 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: muawiyah
We'll probably have to crush them again and return them to the slavery they seemed to be so happy to have imposed on them.

I favor subcontracting the crushing to the Turks - they did an excellent job last time.

22 posted on 01/01/2012 7:02:10 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: expat1000

We lost America in 2008.

LLS


23 posted on 01/01/2012 7:51:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: expat1000
THE year of Obama
24 posted on 01/01/2012 7:51:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: expat1000

An excellent summation.


25 posted on 01/01/2012 8:36:16 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The foolish children of the Left call it climate change. Adults call it weather...)
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To: expat1000

The evil usurper said he would side with his muslims buddies. He’s proud the blood of our sons and daughters are on his hands.


26 posted on 01/01/2012 8:48:36 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: expat1000

None dare call it treason, nor terrorism.


27 posted on 01/01/2012 9:01:54 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: Bryan24

BTTT!


28 posted on 01/01/2012 6:53:36 PM PST by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama is weak, was born weak and as P.O.T.U.S. is a complete embarrassment to the U.S.A.)
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To: expat1000; Cindy
The news that the Obama Administration has brought in genocidal Muslim Brotherhood honcho Yusuf Al-Qaradawi to discuss terms of surrender for the transfer of Afghanistan to the Taliban

DECEMBER 1997 : (AL TAQWA CHAIRMAN YOUSEF NADA {See NEONAZIS, CONVERTS, LUGANO CELL, SWITZERLAND} TELLS NEWSPAPER THAT AL TAQWA SINCE ITS BEGINNING HAS PLACED ALL ITS TRANSACTIONS UNDER THE CONTROL OF YUSSEF AL QARDAWI [QARADAWI]----See ISLAMIC SOCIETY OF BOSTON ) ------------Radical Islam: Outspoken cleric, jailed activist tied to new Hub mosque [Boston]," Boston Herald ^ | October 28, 2003 | Jonathan Wells, Jack Meyers, Maggie Mulvihill and Kevin Wisniewski, Posted on 10/28/2003 2:45:28 PM PST by aculeus

Al Taqwa's also tied to Saddam Hussein's European front companies.

29 posted on 01/23/2012 1:51:26 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Cindy
The news that the Obama Administration has brought in genocidal Muslim Brotherhood honcho Yusuf Al-Qaradawi to discuss terms of surrender for the transfer of Afghanistan to the Taliban

"O God, destroy the Zionist, the American, and the British aggressors. O God, shake the ground under them and protect us from them." ------Yusuf Al-Qaradawi , March 7, 2003 via Middle East Research Institute

He flip flops like John Kerry from one speech to the next though, as he tries to "win hearts and minds."

30 posted on 01/23/2012 2:15:24 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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